Auto Loans Spinning Out of Control
For the last three decades, millions of Americans have been living in Beverly Hills. But how can this be?
Only 35,000 people reside in the actual city of Beverly Hills, California, but millions have acted like they live in Beverly Hills -- where the median household income is $125,000.
The median household income in the US is $50,000. There are 116 million households in the US; only 12 million households have an income of $125,000 or more, and there are 60 million households making less than $50,000.
But why shouldn’t the 60 million households be entitled to live like the top 10%? This is America, where the American dream of wealth and riches is achievable. Just one small problem: Millions have chosen to live like the privileged Beverly Hills elite without doing the work to earn their way into the top 10%.
It appears that the psychology of the nation transformed in the early 1980s.
Was it the optimistic message of “Morning in America” preached to the country by Ronald Reagan? Was it because the youngest Baby Boomers were turning 35, entering their prime spending years? Or, was it the long-term decline in interest rates from 18% to 1% over two decades? Whatever the rationale, millions are now drowning in a deep pool of debt.
Auto Nation There are 230 million cars in the US and about 200 million drivers. We are a car-crazed nation, with the number of cars per person 40% higher than Europe, 500% higher than China and 6,200% more than India.
In 1970, when I was seven, the number of cars per 1,000 people was 529. Today, it's 765, a 45% increase in three decades. Suburban dwellers have a love affair with their cars.
The average price of a new car now exceeds $30,000. That is a nice chunk of change. I have a mental block paying that much money for an asset that losses 20% of its value in the first year of ownership.
My price limit is $20,000. I finance my cars over four years and try to get 10 years out of them. The six years of no payments goes directly into savings.
My frugality probably harks back to my father buying used cars throughout my childhood -- when it seemed cars were a means of transportation, not a symbol of success.
It appears that expensive luxury cars are often an attempt at filling a psychological or emotional void in people’s lives. We spend half our lives in cubicles or offices and the other half in our houses with gates and fences to keep people at a distance. The only time we are seen by others is on the highways and byways. An expensive sports car tells the world you are a success and is a futile attempt at increasing your perceived happiness.
This brings me to the conundrum that has confounded me as I drive to work each day. There appear to be many more BMW and Mercedes vehicles on the road than people with enough income to own one of these vehicles. How can this be?
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especially liked (among many useful items and facts):
"Underprivileged people in West Philadelphia often don't realize that politicians and bankers are keeping them entrapped in poverty by providing them with easy credit and persuading them that making perpetual payments for cars, TVs, and other material goods is a normal lifestyle...." -
plus, though i enjoy "some" commercials, the advertising industry has, from the moment an infant can absorb jingles, and then cute catch phrases, imprinted an entire civilization with internalized wants that feel like needs -
creating / replacing astrology with its own birthchart of desires, all based on debt...
i think i'll go have a cold one....
this debit slavery is just as abusive with the "owner" not having the obligation of at least feeding and housing the slaves / serfs
Some doofus puts his ball cap on backwards, soon eveybodie dooin it.
Baggie pants. Chains. Bling. Caaas. wimmens. Sheep to the slaughter, lead by dey nose rings.
You have ignored the fact that regular car payments are HIGHER than lease payments. Someone could save considerably AND drive a brand new car every couple of years by getting a much lower payment on a lease and putting the difference in the bank:
YOUR PLAN
$500/month - your payment for 4 years
$500/month - your savings for 6 years
Total savings: $36,000/decade or $144,000 in 4 decades....not quite the $200,000 you said in your article, so I'm not sure what kind of interest your math includes but it isnt transparent. You also don't mention what you will inevitably have to spend on maintenance and repair with an aged vehicle like this. Yes, car quality is good these days but there's still normal wear, tear, etc. such as tires that you will have to pay for!
SOMEONE WHO LEASES A CAR EVERY 2 YRS
$300/month - payment every year
$200/month - savings every year
Total savings: $24,000/decade or $96,000 in 4 years. And much less repair and maintenance charges because you're always driving new!
You have ignored the fact that regular car payments are HIGHER than lease payments. Someone could save considerably AND drive a brand new car every couple of years by getting a much lower payment on a lease and putting the difference in the bank:
YOUR PLAN
$500/month - your payment for 4 years
$500/month - your savings for 6 years
Total savings: $36,000/decade or $144,000 in 4 decades....not quite the $200,000 you said in your article, so I'm not sure what kind of interest your math includes but it isnt transparent. You also don't mention what you will inevitably have to spend on maintenance and repair with an aged vehicle like this. Yes, car quality is good these days but there's still normal wear, tear, etc. such as tires that you will have to pay for!
SOMEONE WHO LEASES A CAR EVERY 2 YRS
$300/month - payment every year
$200/month - savings every year
Total savings: $24,000/decade or $96,000 in 4 years. And much less repair and maintenance charges because you're always driving new!
You could've made the same argument about option-ARMs: if only you saved this cash @ 8% per year instead of paying down principle, you could come out ahead. The fact is, these financing vehicles were marketed as affordability products - pure & simple. So folks who went for them were trying to reach for a lifestyle that was really outside of their realm, consequences be damned.
what if you spend $10,000 on a car or even $5,000 on a car?
In the $5,000 to $10,000 could buy a reliable car?
Regards
Pete
You assume I put the $36,000 under the mattress? I invest it. The beauty of compounding, sweetheart. You clearly are not good with numbers. Go back to the drawing board and keep on leasing.
You said "Show me a person who follows your leasing method and I'll show you a pig that can fly. 24 & 36 month leases don't tend to be the financing vehicle of the thrifty. They're used by the ones who are "chasing it." Stretching every last dollar they have to get the most expensive, flashiest, bauble..."
My, the pessimism! I like to make my money work for me, and many people I know do the same! We're not all dumb, believe it or not!
It goes without saying that someone who lives outside of their means will have to face the music in the end. My only point is that this article is factually inaccurate and misleading. You can in fact lease a new car every two years and save a lot of money AND drive a new car in the process. It takes the same amount of discipline that it would to save that $500/month for 6 years. And those are just the facts....plain and simple. No editorializing, no misleading, no fuzzy math.
Blech.
But still wrong. And I must at least give you some credit for having the intelligence not to deny that in your response. Thanks for proving my point for me.
I love to see Boomers who live beyond their means flailing about with ridiculous excuses for their lifestyles.
Blech yourself. What a bunch of thin skinned people there are out there.
You clearly did not comprehend the article. Your angry frenzied response tells me everything I need to know about you. I bought a CRV and paid it off in 4 years. I compared that to people leasing BMWs. What savings are achieved in the scenario. Is the BMW lease $300? NO It is $500. No savings. Get it?
No you won't get it because you are so infuriated by the correctness of my analysis.
Good day miss.
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Run the numbers instead of going with your feelings.
Borrow from a whole life policy.. some have 0 % interest after a certian period, or borrow from your 401k if you have one and pay yourself back with interest. Better yet take it from savings be your own banker like our folks did.
I know I will get flack by suggesting borrowing 401k funds but 5% interest earned as opposed to 5 % paid to a lender works out ok with me. I realize the potential opportunity lost in the market but if 8% avg S&P return is considered real good a safe 5% is nothing to laugh about.
However Jim is correct in his theory buying works out better than leasing and... owning a car for 10 years or more reduces your cost per mile significantly.
Discipline is the deciding factor, most people do not have the ability to save as is evident in our country's miserable savings rate.
I concur. I own two ten-year-old vehicles, bought them both used and paid for them outright â a GMC Prizm and a Ford Expedition. Paid $7000 for the Prizm in 2000 (it had 30,000 miles on it) and $10,000 for the Expedition in 2004 (it had 65,000 miles). I only insured them with liability, which costs $660 per year. They're not covered if the accident is my fault and I have managed to flaw them cosmetically with some noticeable dents. As far as maintenance they've each cost about $500 per year and I intentionally overestimated the maintenance number. Putting these numbers together the Prizm cost $1277 per year at this stage and it still has a lot of life left with 120,000 miles on the odometer. The Expedition, which I bought because I have a big family, cost $2830 per year and it, too, still has a lot of life left with 90,000 on the odometer. The cost of both together per year comes to $4107 at this stage â each new year of ownership the total cost of ownership per year goes down. I plan to hang on to both because both continue to be reliable. I can afford newer or more desirable vehicles but instead I choose to save that money â the cost of showing is too high, in my opinion.
When I was a teenager I lived north of Philly, in Allentown PA, in a blue-collar neighborhood. The cars we bought as teenagers were always used and often on their last leg because that's all we could afford. We fixed them when something broke and we had fun and got by. It was somewhere around the mid-nineties when I began noticing all these teenagers with new cars. At the time I was living in one of the poorest counties in New Mexico, as well as one the poorest counties in the United States. âSurely,â I concluded, âIt must be a different world than the one that I remember as a teenager.â
A different world. Though the 70's weren't pretty either, this is the harvest of easy money and the notion of debt without consequence. We're still paying and will be paying. Thanks for having the guts to write about it for what it is.
without the benefit of hindsight, I knew it was just wrong the very instant I saw it. You do not need much intelligence to realize that mortgaging your future for a vacation is just wrong!
And even though this is completely besides the point (which I get, and agree!), notice in the past decade how the "non"-luxury car prices have surged, often times making a BMW or MB cheaper!!! Go ahead a deck out a Maxima, Honda Pilot, or even a Tahoe-- you'll gasp.
Now as a small biz owner, leasing is the only way to go. And with high RV's, a BMW is the same as a Nissan.
My father grew up in poverty, an Irish household with 8 kids and barely enough money to get by. Every day was spaghetti and ketchup, no tv or radio, and the same clothes to wear to school. When I complained that I didn't get a new toy or something that I wanted, I would hear his story. When people had nice new cars he opted for a cheap mid 80's buick, even though he was making six figures. He never bought a new car until he retired earlier this year and only because Chevy was practically giving cars away.
Contrast that against today where even if you're the poorest of the poor, credit will get you anything you want. It's not all that uncommon for them to have a blackberry, 50" flatscreen, and a BMW 5 series. What do they have to lose?
Living within your means is a thing of the past... Tomorrow's means will be even more limited and living within them will be the only option.
Again, great article and I look forward to the next one.
And as a note, you're "preferred method" for buying a car is I hope going to change in the future. You bought it for $20k, and have driven it for 10 years, and you've saved $36k now. Awesome. Now (when you decide to buy again) go buy another $20k vehicle out of your savings instead of having another 4 years of car payments. It makes ZERO sense to be getting a return of 1.4% on your super-high-yield-savings-account and paying 6 or 7% for a car loan.
I'm convinced gas will be $5 a gallon within the next 5 years, so the Insight will be the best choice.
















