Homes Are Consumer Items - Not Investments
By Mike Mish Shedlock May 26, 2009 10:15 am
If the Fed knew how to manage an economy, housing prices would be included in CPI.
In response to my repost of a Wall Street Journal article about an aborted move by the Peacock family to sell a 10,000-square-foot home (complete with an exotic game room that featured a hyena and the heads of an elephant and a wildebeest), along with 6 sports cars and other items, I received this email from Minyan MB.
Dear Professor Shedlock,
I’m a long-time reader and always enjoy your take on things. The article on the failed auction of the mansion in Florida points out a change I think we're facing: Huge, overly ostentatious homes are dinosaurs.
But I was recently tempted by a “bargain” property here in the Portland area. The bargain property is a 10,000-square-foot home on a 1.4-acre lot in the most prestigious gated community around. It's appraised at $3.5 million, has a $2.7 million mortgage, is bank-owned by a mortgage company in bankruptcy, and the price has continued to drop (it's now at $900,000).
On the one hand, I can’t see ending up with a 10,000-square-foot home with huge utility bills and a tax bill of $41,000. Who will ever want to live in a home like this again? I considered offering $600,000 for it, but decided to walk away, not wanting to own it at any price.
Minyan MB
Dear Minyan MB,
Those who think we've seen the bottom in housing -- especially luxury housing -- need to think again. Attitudes are changing, and they're not changing back. Peak credit and peak earnings are in. Those expecting otherwise need to consider the effect of household deleveraging on housing, consumption, and the stock market.
Peacock aborted the auction of the cars because he owes more on them than the offers he's getting. He aborted the sale of the mansion, even though he would have walked away with over $2 million. Will the next offer be as good?
Cash-strapped boomers will be traveling less, eating out less, and buying fewer toys in retirement than they expected. How many of them can afford to buy such mansions? Of those who can, who will want to?
Is Housing an Investment or a Consumable?
Note what happens to homes that aren't maintained: Dry rot sets in; in Florida, mold and termites take over. Those who think of housing as an investment are now finding out the reality: Housing is more of a consumption item - companies like Toll Brothers (TOL), or Hovnanian (HOV), or Pulte Homes (PHM) or Beazer (BZH) may wish to take note.
As a consumable, housing prices ought to be reflected in the CPI, but officially they're not. Unofficially, I've included them, as the following chart shows.
Case-Shiller-CPI (CS-CPI) versus CPI-U

Click to enlarge
(See CS-CPI Negative 5.0% Third Straight Month for more details.)
Greenspan ignored the effects of asset bubbles like housing, by failing to take into consideration housing in the CPI. Real interest rates were -5% in mid-2004 and stayed that low for quite some time, spawning the biggest credit boom the world has ever seen. Now, in spite of a Fed Fund's rate of zero, real interest rates are +5%.
Think the Fed knows how to manage an economy? Think again.
Greenspan had the winds of productivity, credit expansion, and consumer attitudes at his back. Bernanke has the winds of credit contraction, consumer attitudes, and demographics blowing stiffly in his face.
Those betting on Bernanke's ability to reflate should take another look at his Deflation Prevention Scorecard: He's failed a perfect 13 out of 13 times. And shifting consumer attitudes toward debt and bank-lending are the reasons why.
Dear Professor Shedlock,
I’m a long-time reader and always enjoy your take on things. The article on the failed auction of the mansion in Florida points out a change I think we're facing: Huge, overly ostentatious homes are dinosaurs.
But I was recently tempted by a “bargain” property here in the Portland area. The bargain property is a 10,000-square-foot home on a 1.4-acre lot in the most prestigious gated community around. It's appraised at $3.5 million, has a $2.7 million mortgage, is bank-owned by a mortgage company in bankruptcy, and the price has continued to drop (it's now at $900,000).
On the one hand, I can’t see ending up with a 10,000-square-foot home with huge utility bills and a tax bill of $41,000. Who will ever want to live in a home like this again? I considered offering $600,000 for it, but decided to walk away, not wanting to own it at any price.
Minyan MB
Dear Minyan MB,
Those who think we've seen the bottom in housing -- especially luxury housing -- need to think again. Attitudes are changing, and they're not changing back. Peak credit and peak earnings are in. Those expecting otherwise need to consider the effect of household deleveraging on housing, consumption, and the stock market.
Peacock aborted the auction of the cars because he owes more on them than the offers he's getting. He aborted the sale of the mansion, even though he would have walked away with over $2 million. Will the next offer be as good?
Cash-strapped boomers will be traveling less, eating out less, and buying fewer toys in retirement than they expected. How many of them can afford to buy such mansions? Of those who can, who will want to?
Is Housing an Investment or a Consumable?
Note what happens to homes that aren't maintained: Dry rot sets in; in Florida, mold and termites take over. Those who think of housing as an investment are now finding out the reality: Housing is more of a consumption item - companies like Toll Brothers (TOL), or Hovnanian (HOV), or Pulte Homes (PHM) or Beazer (BZH) may wish to take note.
As a consumable, housing prices ought to be reflected in the CPI, but officially they're not. Unofficially, I've included them, as the following chart shows.
Case-Shiller-CPI (CS-CPI) versus CPI-U
Click to enlarge
(See CS-CPI Negative 5.0% Third Straight Month for more details.)
Greenspan ignored the effects of asset bubbles like housing, by failing to take into consideration housing in the CPI. Real interest rates were -5% in mid-2004 and stayed that low for quite some time, spawning the biggest credit boom the world has ever seen. Now, in spite of a Fed Fund's rate of zero, real interest rates are +5%.
Think the Fed knows how to manage an economy? Think again.
Greenspan had the winds of productivity, credit expansion, and consumer attitudes at his back. Bernanke has the winds of credit contraction, consumer attitudes, and demographics blowing stiffly in his face.
Those betting on Bernanke's ability to reflate should take another look at his Deflation Prevention Scorecard: He's failed a perfect 13 out of 13 times. And shifting consumer attitudes toward debt and bank-lending are the reasons why.
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2009-05-26 10:48:03
thanks
Mish, you are one of the best sources of news and analysis that I can find.
2009-05-26 10:48:42
Housing in index
There are other price measures. Are housing prices included in the personal consumption index, or the gross national product defator?
What needs to be included is what people pay, in proportion. I would guess about 20% (15%?) of homes might be purchased for cash so the sale price of houses would make up some small portion.
Most folks pay a mortgage, so shouldn't the mortgage payment be included as a major component of an index? The payment will vary with housing prices and interest rates, and shouldn't the cost of money also be included?
What needs to be included is what people pay, in proportion. I would guess about 20% (15%?) of homes might be purchased for cash so the sale price of houses would make up some small portion.
Most folks pay a mortgage, so shouldn't the mortgage payment be included as a major component of an index? The payment will vary with housing prices and interest rates, and shouldn't the cost of money also be included?
2009-05-26 10:55:04
Great article
Real Estate investment exists in the gray area between a stable population having their name on a deed and an unstable population having their name on a rental agreement.
Neither exists without a stable income to make the payments; unless the last payment has already been made.
It currently seems that, as a society, somewhere somebody forgot to build income sources that are not tied to the construction and maintenance of the very item being treated as a investment for so long. Big whoops!!
Anybody that tells you real estate is a great investment and forgets to tell you about the high transaction and costs associated with ownership is probably trying to sell a book that tells you how to get rich quick in real estate.
As far as Greenspan's Fed knowing how to manage an economy, he as much admitted that his was and ideology driven process and that the ideology failed to properly account for human behavior. Another Big Whoops!
Neither exists without a stable income to make the payments; unless the last payment has already been made.
It currently seems that, as a society, somewhere somebody forgot to build income sources that are not tied to the construction and maintenance of the very item being treated as a investment for so long. Big whoops!!
Anybody that tells you real estate is a great investment and forgets to tell you about the high transaction and costs associated with ownership is probably trying to sell a book that tells you how to get rich quick in real estate.
As far as Greenspan's Fed knowing how to manage an economy, he as much admitted that his was and ideology driven process and that the ideology failed to properly account for human behavior. Another Big Whoops!
2009-05-26 13:34:15
Consumption Goods Can Be Investments
I agree with your statement that houses are consumption goods (which many people do not recognize) and also with your general thesis on their not being good investment opporunities right now. However, your article does not touch on the subtle point that consumption goods may be good investments.
Consider the example of a rent-to-own appliance and furniture store. Televisions and sofas are certainly consumption goods, yet those firms purchase them and rent them out at a profit to consumers. The investment opportunity is the spread between the cost of capital to purchase those appliances and the rent that can be earned on lending them.
Perfectly analagously, a house can be a good investment if the cost of servicing the mortgage is less than the expected value of rents that can be obtained. Being a consumption good does not preclude something from being an investment.
Consider the example of a rent-to-own appliance and furniture store. Televisions and sofas are certainly consumption goods, yet those firms purchase them and rent them out at a profit to consumers. The investment opportunity is the spread between the cost of capital to purchase those appliances and the rent that can be earned on lending them.
Perfectly analagously, a house can be a good investment if the cost of servicing the mortgage is less than the expected value of rents that can be obtained. Being a consumption good does not preclude something from being an investment.
2009-05-26 21:54:15
Yes but
Companies forced to take loans from the govt never used to be in the equation. The next step will be businesses forced to make loans and consumers forced to take them.
Marxism trumps Keynesian economics. Ask China... and BHO says we can learn a lot from the Chinese.
Think not? Wait and watch.
Marxism trumps Keynesian economics. Ask China... and BHO says we can learn a lot from the Chinese.
Think not? Wait and watch.
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