Five Things: Now It's the Economists' Turn

By Kevin Depew Mar 10, 2009 3:15 pm
As we adjust to a harsher economic reality, everyone will get their turn in the blamelight.
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1) Now It's the Economists' Turn

We knew this was only a matter of time.

"The downturn exposes the decline of economic expertise," Newsweek observes in the March 16 issue.

"Think of all the diet advice, all the exercise programs, all the child-rearing books, all produced by ostensible experts, so much of it subsequently refuted, exposed as nonsense, if not outright pernicious.

Now it is the economists' turn."



2) Sometimes Failure Happens

So is there really a decline of so-called economic expertise? Maybe economists today just aren't as good as economists in "the good old days." Or maybe economists simply never were quite as good as a decades long bull market made them appear to be.

The reality is that this isn't about the quality of economic forecasts or the decline of economic expertise. No, there's simply a decline of common sense coupled with the stubborn hubris to believe we can be masters of markets, both traits compounded by the inability to admit to ourselves that  we are not living in an episode of MacGuyver.

Not every ending is happy. Not all problems get solved. Everyone can't be rich. Sometimes failure happens.


3) It's Not the Destination, But the Path


Speaking of forecasting, many years ago - back when based on my occupation then as a professional horse racing handicapper people presumed I had some expertise to impart - I was part of a large group having lunch at Keeneland in Kentucky.

Before the first post I gave a brief rundown of each race and made a selection, isolating one horse in each race that, gun to head, I thought would win the race. Of course this kind of public handicapping was almost always an embarrassing exercise in futility, but it was a "service" I was always happy to provide to friends... in exchange for a few drinks, lunch and a few drinks.

But this day something weird happened. The horses I selected started winning. The first race? Winner. Second race? Winner. Third race. Fourth race. After eight races six of eight horses had won. Then, the ninth won too. My table companions were deeply impressed. They shook their heads and all agreed that it was an impressive display of handicapping.

"I just wish I had followed your picks," one of them said. "Wow, me too," another chimed in.

"Wait a minute," I said. "Didn't anybody here have any of those horses?"

The table sat in stony silence looking at one another. After an uncomfortable pause, one person spoke up. "I had a few of them in exactas," he said. "Yeah," another admitted, "I made sure to use some of them in trifectas and a few pick threes, but just couldn't put a string of winners together."

And so there it is. Similar to forecasting a bottom on the S&P 500 at 350, 400, 600, wherever, it's not the destination, but the path that matters.


4) Gold In the Closet? Not Anymore

It's almost never a good sign when an investment vehicle or asset class appears in the pages of Newsweek. Now, this is not Newsweek's fault. It's simply the case that when an investment has generated enough popular discussion and interest to merit inclusion in a general interest magazine, it means, almost by definition, that there are fewer and fewer people available to continue the trend.

"In times of stress, gold's unique properties and its long history as a valuable asset make it an appealing buy."
- Newsweek, "Cash In a Mattress? No, Gold In the Closet," March 16, 2009

Let's just hope we don't see any Mr T appearances anytime soon.


5) "A Revaluing of Intangible Assets"


“It’s kind of funny, but I feel much more satisfied with the things money can’t buy, like the well-being of my family, I’m just not seeking happiness from material things any more”
- New York Times, "Conspicuous consumption, a Casualty of Recession," March 9, 2009

If the 90s and most of the first half of the 2000s were about accumulating and displaying "wealth," the next decade will continue the mean reversion toward something altogether more austere, if not more sensible. Debt reduction and the rejection of (and guilt projection toward) materialism will continue as meditations on not just doing more with less, but doing less... period.

All manias leave something undervalued. What has been undervalued for a long time now -  reflection, quietude and time, to name but a few of the things "money can't buy" - will now enter their own bull market, which entails a different ordering of priorities and a more challenging view of what it means to "possess wealth."

While this may seem refreshing and positive in the way I've oversimplified it, the difficulties we face going forward will lie in how capitalism seeks to commoditize things that are difficult to measure and quantify, and what mediums of exchange compete for primacy in the market for these intangibles.
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2009-03-10 15:23:39
re-valuing
aww, to have quality time again...

or finally ;-)
2009-03-10 15:37:55
Decision making
a snippet from a book about decision making reference to stock market and other things
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hzyg9
2009-03-10 15:40:02
As the market has filled the newspapers and general interests magazines I suppose it too will have fewer followers.

Don't we think too that with the market oversold and offering tremedous vlaue that 7 trillion dollars will come to recognize this value as a lay up?




2009-03-10 15:51:28
seven of nine
On that long-remembered day, when you picked 7 of 9 race winners... how many of those picks did you back, yourself ? Was it an unusually good day for you on the ledger ? I ask because my "idea book" is just filled with great trades, not taken (and a heap of idiot trades I am glad I avoided, of course).
2009-03-10 16:11:26
Ah, experts
Experts are never as good as they claim.
And, whenever X happens, someone can usually truthfully claim they predicted it, because of the law of large numbers of yammering idiots indicates that at least one idiot will yammer "X is coming" prior to X. Not all those claiming expertise are idiots, BTW, but for the non-expert it is difficult to distinguish. If there are 50 clowns in a circus ring and Dustin Hoffman walks into that ring and starts reciting Hamlet's soliloquy, most of us are going to see the 51st clown.
Then people assume that because, e.g., von Mises predicted the Great Depression, Austrian School Economics must be correct. You pick the 'expert' that fits your existing biases and cling to them like a barnacle.

Disclaimer: I have great expertise in criticizing other people's thinking, but almost no skill of my own at thinking.
2009-03-10 16:50:19
Schizophrenia
Is it possible for a society to be schizophrenic?

So few economists predicted the crash, so few will call the bottom, and a broken clock is right twice a day.

Friday and Monday were a funeral dirge, and today everything is coming up roses (apparently) with most saying "this is it - we've made a bottom" with sunbeams breaking through the clouds over their shoulder.

From my median income/ median home price perch as I sit here on furlough figuring out how to reduce expenses and pay down debt...this all seems absolutely insane.

5% daily gyrations in the markets, sweeping changes to government and contract law almost overnight, 1,000 page 3/4 trillion $ spending packages no one has read all the way through, buy, sell, buy, sell...gold swinging up then down...aaaaaah!

Is the real story the insanity, the commercials, the news conferences, the punditry, the mania and societal schizophrenia?

The only thing I'm sure of is that I don't trust anyone, but Minyanville is a haven because I do believe Mr. Depew and others here are shooting it straight - and with humor.

Thanks,
Eric
2009-03-10 17:02:17
seven of nine
Ha, good question. Not very many. When making selections like that, the task is to choose which horse is the most likely winner. When betting, however, the task is to choose which bet makes the most sense under the circumstances. Because of the vig involved (the cost to place a wager in the form of the amount taken out when/if you win) it is critical that one limit wagers to situations where there is a value edge. I have known many good handicappers who were terrible bettors, and many mediocre handicappers who were actually very good bettors. Similarly, not every analyst (technical or otherwise) may be a great trader or investor, and many traders and investors may be only marginal at analysis.
2009-03-10 17:41:09
seven of nine
A very cogent explanation of the difference between knowing and doing. A standing 'paradox' is why great athletes seldom make the best coaches. The answer appears to be related to the difference between knowing how and why something should be done, and being able to do it without analytical thought.
2009-03-10 19:19:03
Newsweek
Newsweek is an excellent source of insight. Like Robert McNamara, Newsweek is inversely true. All you have to realize is that everything they believe is true is exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the truth. If McNamara said it was "up", then absolutely certainly it was "down".
2009-03-10 19:28:57
Schizophrenia
"Is it possible for a society to be schizophrenic? "

Yes, and I would also add stupid on my more bitter days. :)

For a reasonable accurate picture of human nature, my suggestion would be to read a whole of Agatha Christie. Scott Adams books will also get you into a properly cynical mood.

The bottom line is that the best and the brightest are prone to confirmation bias and frequent, emotion laden bad judgements. (And worse, hanging onto those opinions for decades). Where does that leave the "C" students? Hmmm...
2009-03-10 19:29:58
Newsweek
It's very handy that way. I also have in-laws who have chased every modern bubble. Once I find out they're buying gold, that's the time to sell.
2009-03-10 19:34:31
seven of nine
It turns out I'm kinda bad at analysis *and* investment. Where does that leave me on the be vs. do continuum? Uh oh...
2009-03-10 19:40:28
Your in-laws
Very valuable people. Would appreciate it if you would keep me up to date on their "investment strategies".
2009-03-10 19:47:59
Your in-laws
Me too!!!!!!
2009-03-10 20:21:28
seven of nine
For people like us, there is always drinking.
2009-03-10 20:44:57
seven of nine
Amen brother. Now where did that corkscrew get to?
2009-03-10 21:03:58
Newsweek
Like Minyanville's own lancie lewis....
2009-03-10 21:30:09
Bubble Spotting
An economist who can't see a bubble isn't much of an economist, especially a bubble of this magnitude. Its the job of an economist to look at structures and spot structural failures. What is appalling about the profession is that there is never any self-examination; they are frequently in error, but never in doubt.
2009-03-10 21:30:26
New austerity
As one of my former students said as we spoke about the economy, "Since I don't have anything, I don't have to worry about losing it!" The vast majority of the the people who read and write the financial press seem to have forgotten that most Americans do not have college educations and 6 figure salaries. For most the will be no "mean reversion toward something altogether more austere," and the most pain will be borne by those with the most to lose.
2009-03-10 21:42:18
a few possibilities
"the difficulties we face going forward will lie in how capitalism seeks to commoditize things that are difficult to measure and quantify, and what mediums of exchange compete for primacy in the market for these intangibles."

Maybe the loss of value of money will determine a different approach to that. Time might be exactly what will be more valued, and a heap of spiritual garbage might be an adecuate good for barter. I foresee good business for sects. Political parties in the outskirts of decency might profit greatly too.

Heroin and crack should rise relative to cocaine and MDM, "hard" relative to "soft" and drugs in general will see a bull market.

Contributions to fora like Minianville will rise and quality of the posts will decrease, as I help to do with mine.

2009-03-10 21:46:55
New austerity
As an owner of nothing, when you loose your job or the possibility to ever get one, you loose your ability to survive. By contrast, capital owners have ground to step back on.

Which is why the latter get the bailouts while the former have to pay.

For a serf, something altogether more austere might mean no weekends, no vacations, no roof or no food.

Why is it so difficult to grasp?
2009-03-10 22:48:15
MacGuyver
Well done, Pep. I'm now sitting here gnashing a piece of chewing gum, caressing my Swiss Army knife, and taking apart every ball-point pen I have just in case I have to hot-wire a Jeep and set up a trip-wire in a third-world country all the while keeping my stealth-mullet perfectly coiffed.

No amount of alcoholic consumption will get that out of my head now - nice.
2009-03-11 07:32:28
Schizophrenia
Eric, Amen,You have it right. However, I think it is more bi-polar in nature. I feel like I've been hopping out of the frying pan into the fire, back into the pan, then the fire...... I am becoming toast!

Think I'll settle in for a cup of tea, and turn off the drip, drip, of financial news. ( a new kind of water boarding) and contemplate the blessings of family and friends. As someone told me, Namaste!


2009-03-11 09:53:25
I see it too
Yep. Not just a societal feeling (socionomics) but a burning inspiration to downsize. I am starting over with OWNING what I have. No debt. Last thing left is the housing, and I will have to move down into a trailer to make that happen. But I will have $$$$ saved every month and can buy a house cash in a few years or build my own at my convenience.

Not a borrower be,
Raymond
2009-03-11 12:17:02
seven of nine

See? Honest and funny.

Prost!
2009-03-11 12:19:13
I see it too
Stuff: Either it owns you or you own it. I prefer the latter myself, although many Americans have gone for the first deal in the last 2 decades.
2009-03-11 12:26:29
Your in-laws
"Would appreciate it if you would keep me up to date on their "investment strategies"."

*grin*. I can give you the current Amy in-law report:

Housing bubble still going strong, with a feeling of rebound in the foreseeable future (1 or 2 years out). They have seriously thought of buying gold but as far as we know have taken no action yet. Suggests the Newsweek report is a false positive or just a current top. We need the Mr. T indicator for further corroborate evidence in the gold. :)
2009-03-11 13:34:15
Your in-laws
Just like there are many interim bottoms but only one final bottom, there will be many interim tops in Gold but only one final top.

The trick for now is not to own it but rather trade it. Ignore everything else. As I see it, the people who foresee the ultimate collapse of our economic system are buying Gold to keep.

I think the world's economic system will suffer many self inflicted and ultimately mortal wounds, followed by the implementation of new system, just as history shows has been done many times over for centuries.

Gold may simply be a means to transition from the old system to the next system. For the long term holders, the price now or tomorrow means nothing to them, just the final price.

Since nothing ever goes straight up or down, there will be plenty of opportunity to trade Gold before there is a need to own Gold. The real problem is being one step ahead of everyone else when the need to own becomes obvious to everyone else.
2009-03-11 15:46:39
Pep...
Personally I'd settle for a TD update, any changes due to yesterday's snapper?
2009-03-11 15:52:14
Mish said...
"it now appears as if the S&P 500 has traced out 5 clean waves down, ending at 666. If that is the case and wave 5 does not extend, it will not be fun to be net short at this point whether or not lower lows are ultimately coming later or not.'

for humor...

http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-attacks-cramer-take-iii-2009-3
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