Our Marionette Economy
By Peter Atwater Sep 16, 2009 9:40 am
The government won't be able to pull enough strings.
This morning, in the Wall Street Journal, Wells Fargo CEO John Stumpf is quoted saying “If it’s not a government program, it’s basically not getting done.”
While Stumpf’s comment was targeted to the mortgage market and associated with a plea for Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) to raise their size limits so as to be able to pick up more jumbo mortgages, I believe he nailed the current state of our economy:
“If it’s not a government program, it’s basically not getting done.”
Every day, as I look through various government statistics, it becomes more and more clear that our economic condition is entirely a function of Washington.
Banking -- absolutely; Autos -- yup; housing -- yup; technology -- yup. You name it, I see it. More importantly, where it’s not, there are increasingly louder pleas (such as Mr. Stumpf’s, for more).
But to me, there’s a fundamental flaw to the notion that the government can create a sustainable economic recovery.
This past week, as pundit after pundit shared their key learning from the Lehman failure, I kept coming back to a comment from Bennet Sedacca: “They (the government) can make ’em bounce, but they can’t make ’em fly.”
In the New York Times, columnist Joe Nocera wrote that it was the failure of Lehman that triggered the enormous government response which “saved the system.” What struck me as odd about Nocera’s comment is that while the massive actions of Washington did stabilize the financial system last fall, it wasn’t until March of this year that the broader market (as measured by the S&P 500) bottomed.
And that’s my view of all of the various government programs out there; while they can slow a decline, they can’t create a sustainable recovery.
Why?
Because government intervention -- at least so far in American history -- is temporary: It’s there when needed, but with both a finite time horizon and size limit.
As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary -- the fiscal stimulus, the banking support, the dramatic intervention by the Fed. And they fear what’s ahead without it.
Worse, our economic stability is a function of how, where, and when Washington pulls the strings. So business leaders, as much as they plea for more of it, don’t really trust it. As the banking community has seen with TARP, there are interesting strings that come attached.
Yesterday, Chairman Ben Bernanke declared the recession as over. While that may be technically true, until I see real private-sector demand for credit, goods, and services, I remain unconvinced. And let me give you just one example why:
This morning, weekly mortgage applications dropped by more than 10% -- despite near-record-low rates and the very sizable first-time home buyer’s subsidy. To me, this suggests that we’re nearing the point where we’ve “pulled forward” just about as many home purchases as we can. (Just like we “pulled forward” billions in auto purchases through the Cash for Clunkers program).
So Washington is now faced with a choice -- increase/expand home purchase subsidies or let prices fall. (And I’m willing to bet that the same will be true come November on the auto front).
Government subsidies are great while they last, but as we saw a year ago, they’re not enough to prevent markets from finding the bottom.
That, to me, is the most important lesson from last fall. And a year later, I’m only more convinced.
While Stumpf’s comment was targeted to the mortgage market and associated with a plea for Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) to raise their size limits so as to be able to pick up more jumbo mortgages, I believe he nailed the current state of our economy:
“If it’s not a government program, it’s basically not getting done.”
Every day, as I look through various government statistics, it becomes more and more clear that our economic condition is entirely a function of Washington.
Banking -- absolutely; Autos -- yup; housing -- yup; technology -- yup. You name it, I see it. More importantly, where it’s not, there are increasingly louder pleas (such as Mr. Stumpf’s, for more).
But to me, there’s a fundamental flaw to the notion that the government can create a sustainable economic recovery.
This past week, as pundit after pundit shared their key learning from the Lehman failure, I kept coming back to a comment from Bennet Sedacca: “They (the government) can make ’em bounce, but they can’t make ’em fly.”
In the New York Times, columnist Joe Nocera wrote that it was the failure of Lehman that triggered the enormous government response which “saved the system.” What struck me as odd about Nocera’s comment is that while the massive actions of Washington did stabilize the financial system last fall, it wasn’t until March of this year that the broader market (as measured by the S&P 500) bottomed.
And that’s my view of all of the various government programs out there; while they can slow a decline, they can’t create a sustainable recovery.
Why?
Because government intervention -- at least so far in American history -- is temporary: It’s there when needed, but with both a finite time horizon and size limit.
As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary -- the fiscal stimulus, the banking support, the dramatic intervention by the Fed. And they fear what’s ahead without it.
Worse, our economic stability is a function of how, where, and when Washington pulls the strings. So business leaders, as much as they plea for more of it, don’t really trust it. As the banking community has seen with TARP, there are interesting strings that come attached.
Yesterday, Chairman Ben Bernanke declared the recession as over. While that may be technically true, until I see real private-sector demand for credit, goods, and services, I remain unconvinced. And let me give you just one example why:
This morning, weekly mortgage applications dropped by more than 10% -- despite near-record-low rates and the very sizable first-time home buyer’s subsidy. To me, this suggests that we’re nearing the point where we’ve “pulled forward” just about as many home purchases as we can. (Just like we “pulled forward” billions in auto purchases through the Cash for Clunkers program).
So Washington is now faced with a choice -- increase/expand home purchase subsidies or let prices fall. (And I’m willing to bet that the same will be true come November on the auto front).
Government subsidies are great while they last, but as we saw a year ago, they’re not enough to prevent markets from finding the bottom.
That, to me, is the most important lesson from last fall. And a year later, I’m only more convinced.
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2009-09-16 09:54:11
Misdirection of Resources
As always the elite in Washington are misdirecting resources for the benefit of a few on the backs of the many. They are enslaving the masses in "chains of debt".
"No taxation without representation!" Whom speaks for the future generations of Americans who's future opportunities will be crushed under the ever increasing debt obligations. What moral right do we have to spend party on the backs of future Americans?
"No taxation without representation!" Whom speaks for the future generations of Americans who's future opportunities will be crushed under the ever increasing debt obligations. What moral right do we have to spend party on the backs of future Americans?
2009-09-16 09:56:56
great post -
on target nailed on the flat head of a stubborn fear to let the market, and economy, adjust -
loved:
"As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary...And they fear what's ahead without it...."
i'd only add, i fear what's already here, with with that stimulus, too....
loved:
"As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary...And they fear what's ahead without it...."
i'd only add, i fear what's already here, with with that stimulus, too....
2009-09-16 09:57:07
great post -
on target nailed on the flat head of a stubborn fear to let the market, and economy, adjust -
loved:
"As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary...And they fear what's ahead without it...."
i'd only add, i fear what's already here, with with that stimulus, too....
loved:
"As I talk to leaders in and out of the business community, their message is remarkably consistent: They view everything from Washington as temporary...And they fear what's ahead without it...."
i'd only add, i fear what's already here, with with that stimulus, too....
2009-09-16 10:41:52
Misdirection of Resources
There can be no moral justification for this theft of both the bread from their table and from their Liberty.
2009-09-16 10:47:18
Misdirection of Resources
Actually you have it wrong
it is
NO REPRESENTATION, unless you have paid taxes
it is
NO REPRESENTATION, unless you have paid taxes
2009-09-16 10:48:22
Misdirection of Resources
remember
NOTHING IS POLITICALLY CORRECT
if it is MORALLY wrong
NOTHING IS POLITICALLY CORRECT
if it is MORALLY wrong
2009-09-16 10:53:04
Misdirection of Resources
Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. Political Correctness - The Revenge of Marxism Gates of Vienna - Baron Bodissey
2009-09-16 11:02:32
Dear Taxpayer
Dear American Taxpayer,
Thank you for your indentured servitude to the banking oligarchy and a bought government.
We appreciate very much your confidence in our ability to take your hard earned money and use if for speculation on the worldwide market.
We pledge to take your current and future generations of tax dollars at 0% and lend it back to you at 5%-25%. We will also use that money and profit made from lending it to buy your elected officials to look out for our interests rather than yours under the guise of "too big to fail."
Please put all of your hard earned savings and retirement back into equities so we can create another bubble, get the market back up to levels disconnected from your ability to pay your bills and live prudently so that we can slowly and quietly sell off at the highs and take your chips off the table to cash in.
You should feel fortunate that you have what little freedoms you have; aren't you better off than those folks in China and Russia and Venezuala? Please stop the whining and submit to the forces beyond your control or ability to bribe.
Regards,
GS, Wells Fargo, Citibank, the FED, and your "Elected" Officials.
Thank you for your indentured servitude to the banking oligarchy and a bought government.
We appreciate very much your confidence in our ability to take your hard earned money and use if for speculation on the worldwide market.
We pledge to take your current and future generations of tax dollars at 0% and lend it back to you at 5%-25%. We will also use that money and profit made from lending it to buy your elected officials to look out for our interests rather than yours under the guise of "too big to fail."
Please put all of your hard earned savings and retirement back into equities so we can create another bubble, get the market back up to levels disconnected from your ability to pay your bills and live prudently so that we can slowly and quietly sell off at the highs and take your chips off the table to cash in.
You should feel fortunate that you have what little freedoms you have; aren't you better off than those folks in China and Russia and Venezuala? Please stop the whining and submit to the forces beyond your control or ability to bribe.
Regards,
GS, Wells Fargo, Citibank, the FED, and your "Elected" Officials.
2009-09-16 11:14:17
I couldn't agree more. I am in an industry which is on the front lines of economic activity, reinforcing steel (rebar). Over the last year, EVERY one of our new jobs on our backlog has been government related in some way.... highways, water treatment plants, schools, and windfarms (subsidized). Not one privately funded project in over a year....
Thank you all you investment managers investing in munis :)
Scary is right.....
Thank you all you investment managers investing in munis :)
Scary is right.....
2009-09-16 14:40:10
Most frightening
Most frightening to me is that the average American just doesn't seem to get it. The future of our country is literally being mortgaged away before our eyes, but there is very little indignation or outrage. 60% of Americans pay not one dime in income tax! (Heritage Foundation) What stake do they have in our financial future other than seeing their govt check arrive with the mail every month? The most recent election proves it - we're putting the same type of politician into office over and over again. I fear that the years ahead, whether they hold hardships born of inflation or deflation, will propel even more citizens into the open arms of a government program using dollars taxed from a dwindling private sector. A new legion of zombie voters is being created with every entitlement our politicians dream up. I feel very sad for America. We have lost our way.
2009-09-16 17:58:35
Trade of the near future
Short bureaucracy; long guillotine blades.
2009-09-16 23:34:43
Debt snowball keeps rolling
Biggest change to the equity markets occurred with accounting changes (no more mark to market, etc.). Debt got hidden and buried. Balance sheets magically started showing profits. Magical!! Low interest rates make the debt snowball feasible. The debt will keep rolling (pun intended) until interest rates rise. The car salesman phrase "don't worry what it costs, what payment do you want" will no longer work. Can the Fed raise interest rates without cutting our countries throat?
Regulate our financial industry (debt merchants)? , I think not. They are our economy!! It would be like telling Henry Ford to cut back on producing Model T's in 1925. Of course he probably did in 1930 without any government regulation. I wonder if a government program exchanging that clucker Model T for a new Model A would have worked? What payment would you like with that?
Regulate our financial industry (debt merchants)? , I think not. They are our economy!! It would be like telling Henry Ford to cut back on producing Model T's in 1925. Of course he probably did in 1930 without any government regulation. I wonder if a government program exchanging that clucker Model T for a new Model A would have worked? What payment would you like with that?
2009-09-17 12:00:35
History
"at least so far in American history" - the phrase offers little comfort.... we never had Marxists in control of the govt.
Expect things to be much different this time. The goal of the govt is power and control, not created-wealth by the citizens.
Any bounce will be reason for more govt spending, not less. Long-term planning is the next election --- as long as we still have elections.
Expect things to be much different this time. The goal of the govt is power and control, not created-wealth by the citizens.
Any bounce will be reason for more govt spending, not less. Long-term planning is the next election --- as long as we still have elections.
2009-09-20 14:58:17
A river diverted tends to return to its intended path
I learned this 10 years ago in a literal sense when the dry arroyos of Las Vegas, diverted to avoid the fancy casinos, quickly filled during heavy rains and flooded those same casinos' parking garage.
M. Peter showed that the market is like a river in that despite the TARP and the stimulus the market still headed downward into March, and I bet the economy is similar. The feds can do a lot of expensive diverting, but just don't be standing in the now presumed safe area downstream when the heavy rains start. I bet the economy and market do eventually go where they had intended to all along.
M. Peter showed that the market is like a river in that despite the TARP and the stimulus the market still headed downward into March, and I bet the economy is similar. The feds can do a lot of expensive diverting, but just don't be standing in the now presumed safe area downstream when the heavy rains start. I bet the economy and market do eventually go where they had intended to all along.
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