Stephanie Pomboy: Economic Fear Taking Hold
By MV Respect Jan 31, 2008 11:15 am
Investors will eventually realize the Fed has just 300 basis points left to play with...
I think we are about to see a massive shift in sentiment which will be manifest in global markets from stocks to bonds to currencies. This shift could be the result of a financial crisis, or could simply arise from a 'final straw' being laid atop the mountain of financial problems thus far.
Either way, the upshot will be to spur fears of deflation. Right now there's a lot of lip-service about the topic but zero genuine angst. Witness the relentless obsession with the Fed, as if whether they go 50 or 25 actually makes a difference?!!
Eventually (and i believe much sooner rather than later--call it feminine intuition), investors will realize the Fed now has only 300 bp to play with and the credit bust has barely begun! At some point, investors will do the math. Hmmm... if our financial institutions and bond insurers are already unable to function, with delinquency rates barely up from record lows, what's going to happen when things really get bad?
On the bright side, at least the fed is trying to get the credit wheels turning. In the Eurozone the ECB is taking their economy on a Thelma & Louise roadtrip. Pedal to the metal, they are speeding straight over the precipice.
Again, all of this seems patently obvious. But talking about deflation in the abstract is very different from living it. From a macro trading standpoint the standard relationships will break down. Many already have. Like bonds and gold, the yield curve... and so on. I expect the euro will soon begin to trade inversely with rates (eg., the tighter the ECB the weaker the euro, because it virtually ensures they completely disintegrate). Meanwhile, in the US, the Fed, running out of room to cut short rates, will shift to the long end and US treasuries will move well below 3%. This isn't a statement about the value of Treasuries. Heck, there wasn't any value in Treasuries at 6%!! But that's not the point.
Stay tuned, because things are about to get very very interesting.
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2008-01-31 11:23:44
rose colores glasses or silver lining?
i expect some sort of bailout of MBIA and ABK-
given that, does your 'sky is falling' scenario still hold up?
if not, i will continue hoarding tequila!
given that, does your 'sky is falling' scenario still hold up?
if not, i will continue hoarding tequila!
2008-01-31 11:35:13
negative interest rates
It seems to me we are already at negative interest rates factoring in true inflation...and if it is this bad already? How much worse will it get? Maybe the Fed's exponential growth curve for inflation has been a flawed model from go?
2008-01-31 11:36:04
Confused!!!
I am very confused by the notion the Fed will work on the long end. How can we do that as a debtor (massive) nation. Who buys these bills at 3%?
I think I need some tequila myself.
I think I need some tequila myself.
2008-01-31 11:40:26
buy more ammo!
because the thrust of human existence on this planet is one of "growth at any cost", or "dam the torpedos, full speed ahead", long run inflation is the rule
to see actual deflation, we would have to witness a depression
w/ all the gangs, drugs, criminals, police, perverts and theives running around out there, i don't think we want to see that
DAM THE TORPEDOS, BUY MORE AMMO N HUNKER DOWN IN YUR PILLBOX, THE DEPRESSION IS A CUMMIN!
to see actual deflation, we would have to witness a depression
w/ all the gangs, drugs, criminals, police, perverts and theives running around out there, i don't think we want to see that
DAM THE TORPEDOS, BUY MORE AMMO N HUNKER DOWN IN YUR PILLBOX, THE DEPRESSION IS A CUMMIN!
2008-01-31 12:07:18
buy more ammo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On January 31st at 11:40 AM
Back Lash wrote:
because the thrust of human existence on this planet is one of "growth at any cost", or "dam the torpedos, full speed ahead", long run inflation is the rule
to see actual deflation, we would have to witness a depression
w/ all the gangs, drugs, criminals, police, perverts and theives running around out there, i don't think we want to see that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What if you ARE one of those gangs, police, perverts, or thieves ? Or worse, poor?
We lost the class war. No matter how diverse your portfolio, you ain't gonna be on the side that already won. The side that won is already dead and left the Empire to their kids.
The rest of us compete with our neighbors for the filth left in the ditch.
We truly are going to see some interesting times.
"Your money or your life?" Tough question when both are now worthless.
2008-01-31 18:08:59
Over the Precipice in Europe
I'm not at all sure I can agree with your assessment of the actions of the ECB.
First, I'm not at all sure that European banks have all that much exposure to the housing bubble. Yes, Spain is a mess. Yes, the UK as well. However, if the overall EEC doesn't have that much of a bubble then going the route of Bernanke by dropping rates drastically when inflation is an issue seems imprudent.
Will US economic woes infect Europe? Without a doubt. However, Europe might be better served by steering a stable and sane course rather than the cheap-and-easy-credit-bubble method the Fed seems to like. Short term they may not get stellar results, but long term it may just be a winner.
Disclaimer: I'm putting my money where my mouth is and betting the ECB has a saner approach than the FED. Even if the European markets go down with the US, I'm betting on the drop in interest rates here will make up for any "losses" in Europe as the dollar drops vs. the Euro. I'm currently 2/3 in European equities and 1/3 US.
First, I'm not at all sure that European banks have all that much exposure to the housing bubble. Yes, Spain is a mess. Yes, the UK as well. However, if the overall EEC doesn't have that much of a bubble then going the route of Bernanke by dropping rates drastically when inflation is an issue seems imprudent.
Will US economic woes infect Europe? Without a doubt. However, Europe might be better served by steering a stable and sane course rather than the cheap-and-easy-credit-bubble method the Fed seems to like. Short term they may not get stellar results, but long term it may just be a winner.
Disclaimer: I'm putting my money where my mouth is and betting the ECB has a saner approach than the FED. Even if the European markets go down with the US, I'm betting on the drop in interest rates here will make up for any "losses" in Europe as the dollar drops vs. the Euro. I'm currently 2/3 in European equities and 1/3 US.
2008-02-01 15:20:54
"In the Eurozone the ECB is taking their economy on a Thelma & Louise roadtrip. Pedal to the metal, they are speeding straight over the precipice. "
Maybe.
However... Working within a large bank in Spain, and I hear of many companies who are shedding portions of their businesses into cash positions waiting for the rebound, "el rebote"...
Maybe.
However... Working within a large bank in Spain, and I hear of many companies who are shedding portions of their businesses into cash positions waiting for the rebound, "el rebote"...
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