Minyan Mailbag: Where Does GLD Get All That Gold?

By Lance Lewis Feb 17, 2009 1:00 pm
No shortage in the yellow metal - yet.
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Professor Lewis,

Specifically, from whom does the Gold ETF (GLD) purchase the physical commodity in such large quantities?

Minyan K


Dear Minyan K,

It's purchased on the London Bullion Market (just as you might buy a stock on the NYSE, though London is OTC and not a true "exchange" environment). GLD's vaults are also conveniently located in London.

The LBMA just reported this morning that gold ounces transferred between accounts held by bullion clearers rose 8%, to a daily average of 18.8 million ounces (533 tonnes) in January from a month earlier.

And for those who might not be aware, a "metric tonne of gold" is about a cubic foot. So it's not as large as one might think. In fact, all the gold in the world could be fit into a tennis court-sized cube. Hence, gold is very rare and very valuable.

There seems to be a misunderstanding (largely due to misinformation being spread by certain "Internet commentators") that there's a "shortage" of gold. There isn't - though there is a significant shortage of gold coins and small bars, but the larger bars can still easily be found, despite robust investor demand for the yellow metal.

When we see GOFO turn negative and indicate backwardation for a sustained period, then we'll know even the larger bars are difficult to find.

But we're not there yet.

Sincerely,
Professor Lewis
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2009-02-17 13:21:45
Trading Gold in London
So I guess the next obvious question is, if the ETF GLD is purchasing large amounts of Gold on a daily or weekly basis, is it being recorded for the public to see?

Is the GLD volume/amount of Gold purchases significant as part of the daily volume? Should we be seeing volume increases in London?
2009-02-17 14:33:12
Trading Gold in London
MIchael,

I wish I could answer your questions, and hope Lance does.

This post is purely to egg him on to reply, as I have yet to read any replies from him on these boards (at least for the last 7 months)...

This is to get to him to reply- if he does, great for us by was of more information, if he doesn't I prove my point... Either way I win! Now if I could only trade so bullet proof.

Hey, if you cant have fun on days like today, why bother!
2009-02-17 16:35:01
WOW!
The articles I read stated that GLD was using OTC to cover their bullion exchange, and Professor Lewis says they are using a the London Bullion Market which is OTC. So if you put two and two together has Professor Lewis confirmed the nay sayers?
2009-02-17 17:26:38
WOW!
Hey Fosnock - I dont want to speak for Lance but you have it all wrong. The articles you have read have been accusing GLD of buying OTC gold derivatives instead of physical gold. Lance is saying that GLD buys its physical gold via the London Bullion market which is an OTC mkt (ie- a trade between two individuals without an exchange inbetween), it does not mean nor has nothing to do with otc derivatives. Please do some reading and LEARN something about the gold business and what an OTC mkt is as opposed to an exchange-based market before throwing out moronic accusations. It will make you look a lot less stupid in the future.. LOL
2009-02-17 17:36:05
WOW!
LoL...wow again...it was a question not a statement. I'm glad you were able to answer it, but you would look a lot less stupid if you understood the difference between a statement and a question...LOL
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