Random Thoughts: What Fannie and Freddie Mean to the Market

By Todd Harrison Aug 20, 2008 11:45 am
Are mortgage lenders' troubles contagious?
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  • Fannie (FNM) and Freddie (FRE) have $233 billion of bonds due by the end of the quarter. Their ability to repay that debt will determine next steps for the GSE’s and speak volumes about their ability to operate as independent, ongoing concerns.

  • If today’s tape could talk, it might be saying “Alright—we’re willing to toss Fannie and Freddie equity into the proverbial volcano as long as the credit side of the equation is backed.”

  • Fair enough, I suppose—to everyone except holders of Fannie and Freddie equity— at least until the next leak springs in the financial dike.

  • That’s the thing about socialization—once it starts, it spreads like the plague while every bleeding, gasping, dying institution expects the Federal ambulance to pull up to the back door and save the day.

  • Think airlines. Think General Motors (GM) and Ford (F). Think about the homebuilders. Again, once you open the blood bank, the lines will form around the block.

  • Time and price, Minyans. Time and price.

  • Remember Minyans, Nationalization is a process rather than a point and it's a process we've been talking about for five years

  • I'll also say this—while the situations at Fannie and Freddie aren’t something one would wish for, some serious snaps are warranted for thy Minyan Professors who have been flagging this process since 2003.

  • No, I didn't "re-pull" the trigger on the long commodity trade after last week's Toddo two-step.

  • There were no couldas, shouldas or wouldas this morning (when crude was ripping higher) as profitability resides in the ride ahead. I continue to watch this complex versus the US dollar, which I believe turned a secular upside corner. Hence, my patience to wait.

  • Did the S&P violate the uptrend line from the July lows? That depends whether you draw it with a crayon or a pencil. On a closing basis, the bulls have a Cliff Branch to hang their hat on but the line between "the trend is your friend" and "risk rationalization" is rather thin.

  • Moi? I've got some Merrill (MER) calls ($23 is the level to watch), Apple (AAPL) calls (with a trailing stop and an eye towards acne at $180), Yahoo (YHOO) calls (which I'll trade around as per my opener) and a snivlet of S&P calls (watching that trendline, along with the financials for guidance).

  • That, a tight leash (it's thin out there) and alotta dry powder is how I’m rolling over the hills and far away as we hike over the Hump.

  • For what it's worth and so it's said, the Ratdog-Allman Brothers show at Jones Beach last Thursday ranks numero uno as the all-time greatest live musical let down. Lest you were on the fence...

  • Yep, rallied 7.5%, all the way to... Shanghai 2523. Keep it in perspective Yo, as Shanghai 3000 remains the level of lore.

  • Want some more Lore to Score? Some udder levels on thy radar should include:

    • Merrill (MER) $23, where that massive slug was recently priced.

    • BKX 60, for as go the piggies, so shows the smoke!

    • S&P 1260-1262, through the lens of holder the fourth higher low.

    • Apple (AAPL) $180. While we know never to anticipate the anticipator, an upside breach of this level, if and when, would trigger some reverse dandruff.

    • Lehman (LEH)--in general, given the overnight news.

    • Toddo 200 lbs. I mean, seriously, I haven't seen the inside of a gym in almost a month!

  • Good luck on the hump, Minyans, let's trade like a Phelps today!


R.P.

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2008-08-20 12:23:44
Udder delight?
Prof. Harrison,

Is 200 pounds support, or resistance? And wouldn't it be delightful if weight gains encountered resistance? I'm hanging at about 205 myself so I feel your pain.

WRT the BKX index, looking at the chart it almost looks as though there is support at round numbers - but why would an index function that way? I suspect that Hank and Ben may be using the BKX as a factor in the timing of their behind the scenes machinations.
2008-08-20 13:07:30
$233 Billion
Anyone got a link to the source of this $233 Billion that the GSEs need to roll over?

Does anyone besides me think the market will crash when the GSEs are declared bankrupt? All the credibility of the Fed & Treasury would seem to be up in smoke or down the drain or out the window once that occurs.

Or, what magic tricks are Helicopter Ben & Hanky-Panky conjuring to levitate the dead GSEs until after the election?
2008-08-20 13:32:10
strong dollar?

"...the US dollar, which I believe turned a secular upside corner."

So you see the dollar trending higher? Based on recent (predictable) market manipulation?

Wow.

The numbers suggest the opposite... if fact, it may be physically impossible for the dollar to trend higher from here. The tug-of-war is not USD v. Euro, it is fiat currency v. commodities.

The BRICs are still growing, and domestic drilling will not reverse the economic impact of peak oil. Commodity demand will continue to grow (relative to supply), thus fiat currencies will remain weak.

How does secular upside in the USD behave when the fed cuts rates again? You may be out on a limb on this one...

mp
2008-08-20 14:24:35
options on Cubs tickets
Minyans might find http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/cubs-fans-make-unusual-futures/story.aspx?guid=%7B1EE5D58A%2DCF4E%2D41F0%2D8F06%2D10C90B30CFBD%7D of interest. Essentially, it seems Cubs post-season tickets, when issued, are trading as an options market. Dr. Jon Narajan has them as 50 percent overpriced (props to the reporter for finding an expert in options pricing to add rigor to his report).

Toddo, are you long Raiders wild-card seats yet ?
2008-08-20 15:51:13
options on Cubs tickets
Toddo is not long on Raiders post season tickets, because he knows hope is not an investment strategy. Al Davis is like a CEO who understood computers in the mainframe era and hasn't caught up to these newfangled PCs yet.
2008-08-20 16:48:24
Freddie and Fannie- There is an exceptional opportunity here for a well capitalized company to step in and offer loans with a new lending criteria based on a persons ability to pay the loan back instead of the broken formulas used by Freddie and Fannie. Imagine Berkshire hathaway auctioning loans that it had fully vetted. I know I would have confidence buying these packaged loans. They could use their insurance reserves to to fund it and they could get tax breaks from the government. What would be ideal is if they started in the nice and safe midwest picking up the loans their first showing the government just how reliable they are and making a tidy profit in the meantime getting a premium on their auctions and only making loans to solid customers.
2008-08-20 18:08:11
Main Street Denial
Word from main street...the sheeple are 99% in denial that the demise of Fannie & Freddie common stock means anything to the average citizen. The sheeple still think Cubs and Raiders games are productive uses of our soon-to-be-lost wealth.

I hope your grandkids can eat those Cubs & Raiders ticket stubs. That's all that will be left for them if the sheeple let the crooks of Wall Street loot the US Treasury one minute longer.

I don't think the USA will keep its AAA rating. Enron was managed more honestly than this.



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