Economy Still in Coma

By Peter Atwater Nov 14, 2008 11:05 am
And it won't end till the credit cancer does - most likely, via default.
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Beginning in August last year, our credit-addicted financial system began to fail. And for the next 15 months, the government tried to intervene in that addiction with increasing urgency.

Unfortunately, the time between interventions halved following each attempt. Ultimately, with the collapse of Lehman Brothers and AIG (AIG), the patient was rushed to the emergency room, with its government “family” demanding that extraordinary measures be taken to save its life.

Hank Paulson, head of the ER, called “Code Blue,” bringing a team of specialists from around the world runningg to perform financial triage - effectively putting the system on life support. The Federal Reserve and central banks attempted to breathe life into it through immense liquidity facilities; Congress and other national governments tried to stimulate blood flow through promises of fiscal stimulus.

But while the patient is stabilized today, I would caution those who look at yesterday’s rally as the bottom. The patient remains on complete life support. Worse -- and at the risk of mixing metaphors -- the credit cancer remains in the body and is clearly growing.

To those forecasting a “V” shaped recovery, I would offer that, for that to happen, our financial system would, in effect, need to rise up off the operating table and proceed to dance like a Rockette in the Christmas Show - and that would have to happen today.

Unfortunately, that isn’t likely to occur any time soon. Notwithstanding the improvement in the short-term credit markets, the patient, after its numerous heart attacks, is extremely frail. Worse, rather than beginning the recovery process, I fear we have opted to put the system into the economic equivalent of a coma, in hopes of postponing recognition of the credit losses unfolding before us (through the suspension of mark-to-market accounting, for example).

Though the patient appears to be resting comfortably, it’s actually breathing only with the help of a respirator and being fed through a tube.

Even worse, the cancer continues to grow. With housing prices still falling, unemployment rising, and consumer balance sheets in disarray, credit losses are only getting worse. To me, it’s unrealistic to think we can begin any kind of economic rehab process before our enormous credit disease is destroyed - either through repayment or, more likely, thrpugh default.

Don’t get me wrong, a coma is better than death - and for that reason alone, we may continue to rally and rally hard from here. (Again, I would remind Minyans that homebuilder stocks rallied some 30% from their summer lows in 2006.)

But recognize we’re only now just out of triage. And, more importantly, please appreciate that the system has been artificially stabilized through an enormous increase in the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet. Finally, with the change in administration at hand, real treatment will only begin after the New Year.

Again, the good news is that the system survived. But the cancer remains. It’s growing. And while more medication is promised, until I see the system breathing on its own, any hope of a recovery is just that: mere hope.
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2008-11-14 11:49:49
Debt and the economy
I don't get it. I keep hearing Paulson and those at the top saying we must get the banks lending again, especially to the consumer. But then every individual financial advisor is saying GET OUT of debt and live within your means, which is the prudent thing to do. If we all did that individually we would be better off, in the long term. But that would require us to stop spending/ buying "things" so manufacuter's and retailers would then go out of business and we loose jobs and hence no income to get out of debt. Powers that be need to address this and head us in a direction that gets us out of Debt not into more debt. It will be a horrible transition but we will be better for it. As when we, Voelker, killed inflation.
2008-11-14 12:05:01
Put a lion in the cocunut and call me in the morning
Dr Peter:

If we isolate the cancer would you recommend amputation? It would almost seem that the patient would be too weak to survive an amputation. Given the extreme pain the patient is in it would seem euthanasia would be advisable.

However Oregon is the only state that allows assisted suicide. The other alternative would to reclassify patient to a pet status and have a veterinarian put it down.

The other alternative would be to let the Wall Street Pundits kill it with innuendos and assumptions. May I recommend CNBC. They seem to be the professions in dealing with dark matters.


JPM
2008-11-14 12:08:46
Debt and the economy
Yes. Too much talk about "debt", "capital" and "financial system", though.

The problem isn't just with those things, and monkeying around with them won't fix the main problem, which is a loss of credibility to our culture of consumption. We need a new culture, not fixes for the old one.
I suggest that new culture be based upon frugality and a world made simpler on purpose. Focusing on relocalization of systems so that they can be appropriate to local needs is the key to stability over the long term, with minimal skimming by service systems that aren't located within the monkeysphere.
Sure, it's scary to think about. We have all grown up learning the Manifest Destiny jingle, but it's really time to face the music now. The children are THEIR future, and we need to get out of the way.
2008-11-14 12:40:36
Credit Card Conundrum
This may have been discussed on the 'Ville before?

My sibling got a note from the credit card companies basically saying

"If you sneeze, we will raise your rates to 20%, or even 30%"

So how is the American consume (whose spending is 70% of the economy) supposed to get out of debt, even if they try?
Also, if your interest rate goes to 30%, how much new spending can you do? And we still need some new spending to keep the economy going.

I wish one of those hedge fund managers in front of Congress, after agreeing to a little more regulation, had pulled out their credit card and said, "This is a bigger threat to the economy, as people now are forced to not spend any new money"
2008-11-14 13:01:23
Debt and the economy
Webb, the only long-term way out of this mess is for the economy to grow, so that tax revenues some day are large enough to start the process of reducing the national debt. This of course presupposes out idiots/criminals in DC also stop spending, but thats another thread...
New small businesses, existing healthy businesses need capital to grow, unless they can be self-supporting, and few have those dynamics. Individuals with good credit need access for major purchases like houses, cars, etc. Credit is not completely a bad thing , if used prudently.

2008-11-14 14:30:11
Let me ask a question
It is my contention that we will reach a certain point. Regardless of government intervention, regardless of loan modification programs, regardless of anything else, there is a certain point (whether it be S&P 500, unemployment 15%) that will be reached no matter what.

That is why I find Peter's article so interesting. If we are going to reach S&P 500 or 15% unemployment, is it best that it happen BOOM NOW and start the recovery straight away? Or is it best to put the economy in a comatose state for the next 20 years?

If it is true that we cannot recover until the cancer is cured (or debt destroyed) would I rather rack up the hospital bills (interest payments on new debt) of would I rather the sons of guns just cut the dang cancer out and let me be on my merry way?

James
2008-11-15 00:35:53
Credit Card Conundrum
Credit Card Loans at 20% or greater will only speed the overburdened into the abyss...
2008-11-15 00:42:30
Let me ask a question
Be careful what you ask.

A skilled surgeon can indeed cut out the cancer quite succesfully. As with all surgery, the road to rehabilitaion and full recovery can be a long and expensive one.

To carry this analogy to it's fullest extent you must remember that the operation can be an absolute success, but the paitent can still die of other complications.


That's what has me worried, the likelihood of "other" complications.


BTW: Peter I really enjoy your insights and commentary... thanks and keep up the great work.

2008-11-16 10:51:25
Let me ask a question
The problem right now is that the 'cancer' is the head of capitalism: consumption.
We have to cut it off in order to get back to real wealth and usefulness, but everyone is so afraid of the result that they are willing to die a slow, horrible death on a desert planet in order to avoid making the decisions and taking the steps that would save their own miserable lives.
If we don't see it on TV, it ain't gonna happen, and the only thing you'll see on TV is advertising.
2008-11-16 11:43:09
Let me ask a question

I agree.

You are quite correct in that aggressive treatment (surgery) is absolutely necessary. Without it, the patient (economy) will surely die an agonizing death.

My point is that it's not going to be easy and even if we (surgeon, medical and rehab staff and family members) do everything right, our efforts may still fail.

The possibility of unpleasant results should not stop us from trying to save the patient and failure to decide on a course of action is a defacto decision to do nothing.

Too bad there is no "life insurance" available for this patient, just in case...

As members of this extended family, we may just have to prepare for the grieving process and move on.


2008-11-16 13:18:56
Let me ask a question
"My point is that it's not going to be easy and even if we (surgeon, medical and rehab staff and family members) do everything right, our efforts may still fail. "

An important point. We live in a world upside down, where people think that resources come from the top instead of the bottom and imagine things won't happen that probably will (complete market failure and climate change) while imagining things that probably won't happen will (security from gambling on investing, terrorists destroying America, government liars restoring confidence in the con game).

We have to get a dose of reality, take the best shot we can at living simply and reclaiming the low ground of production/living, and we will probably fail anyway, but it's better than trying to "keep the dream alive" by staying in bed and pretending we are asleep. We all know that the money we thought we had wasn't real money, just promises of something that we justified by the lie that we could "make the pie bigger" for everyone.
2008-11-26 00:12:36
what am i missing?
Clusterstock has an interesting review of the $800B bailout.

If I'm a bank, and I've written down the majority of my CDO portfolio 80% or more, what happens if suddenly these bad loans get prepaid?

And I'm making fees on new loans.

And foreclosure rates slow.

And property values stabilize (or even -gasp- rise in non-CA/FL/NV/AZ areas?)

What then happens to my capital ratios & book value?

For example, a BofA, JPM and WFC, if some of those nasty liabilities that came with their Wachovia's WaMus and Countrywides...stopped being liabilities?
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