Alcoa Looks Set to Miss Estimates By a Mile

By Jeff Macke Jul 08, 2009 11:31 am
Company will show you ways to lose you never knew existed.
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Hello from New York, where today kicks off earnings season when Alcoa (AA) issues its traditional quarterly loss. I couldn’t be more excited if it was the first day of college football season (when Notre Dame is always a 2-touchdown favorite over a team they’ll be lucky to beat by a field goal).

Two Fridays ago, I was (correctly) lambasted by a reader for misquoting Casey Stengel via author Jimmy Breslin. I chose the title of Breslin’s book -- Can’t Anybody Here Play This Game? -- rather than what Stengel actually said. It was a no-win situation, so I decided to take one for the team. You’re going to lose 'em some of the time. When you do, lose ‘em right.

Alcoa brings to mind watching a youngish Barry Bonds at Candlestick when they’d just added bleachers in left field. This was pre-steroid use, and left field wasn’t Barry’s House, but rather his rec room. The entire stadium was his.

I'd sit out there with my buddy, Frank, and watch young Barry -- who I still consider the best pure player of all time -- will the Giants to victory using nothing but his baseball IQ (he never, ever, had an arm, but no one got a double by hitting into Barry’s rec room). The summers of 1993 and 1994 were the coldest winters I’d ever endured -- but it was worth every goose pimple. It's not everyday you see the kind of genius Alcoa pours into all its earnings reports; you see it just once a quarter -- from Alcoa.

While we’re on the topic, by 2001, all of San Francisco knew Barry was juicing. We even knew why. We also knew the Internet was a bubble, but there were days you could have a 10% up day in your portfolio then watch Cyber Bonds hit most any pitch thrown his way with bat speed never to be seen again. It was a filthy, more or less appalling summer, but you couldn’t miss it.

Returning to Alcoa, they'll miss the estimate by a mile, one way or another. Their explanation will make little to no sense and give investors no reason to buy the stock. In fact, my money's on them saying: “While we managed to beat published estimates by over 50%, we expect business to decline meaningfully in the second half, as Chinese inventory growth ceases."

If you'd been in this game for 100 years, Alcoa would still show you ways to lose that you never knew existed. You want to play that stock into earnings? Knock yourself out. My counter offer is that you email me at Minyanville and guess heads or tails. I’ll then flip my magic coin and tell you whether you won or lost.
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2009-07-08 10:04:12
and I thought only woman teased...
Huh, all that for a couple snarky cynical comments. Not even a guess at which direction they will miss the estimates. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
2009-07-08 10:44:37
Jeff it is OK to lose it. You with RIMM and I with SDS a few weeks back, but I patted myself on the head for only taking a half position of my usualsort before being stopped out. I didn't take the half court shot for lack of confidence, but for the need of more discipline.

I appreciate myself for not being a complete looser.


Cheers for better trades.
2009-07-08 11:58:42
Sandy Alderson??
2009-07-08 15:16:32
Jeff, what is "sic temper glorious"
2009-07-08 15:42:05
As far as guessing direction, I'm all cash out of fear. Don't know how much more "better than expected" garbage I can take before a good healthy 20% drop will send me back in looking to catch a falling knife. Think I'll buy some raw land and grow vegetables instead.
2009-07-08 16:44:26
Snarky Comments
Hey, I wouldn't qualify my request for cynical comments as pining.

Verbatim from my email : "I need some terse, and acerbically worded article to make me want to go long (all in of course)."

I was asking for a catalyst. The jobs number is going to wear off soon, I need to load up for the bull run.
2009-07-08 16:44:34
welcome back
why so cynical, not to worry, we will all most surely be saved by Goldman's illustrious upcoming earnings report….. thanks uncle sam (oops, that would be us)
2009-07-08 16:45:59
Sic Transit Gloria
My first car was a '78 Dodge Dart. I was planning to paint "Gloria Mundi" on the sides, and save the rest of the quote for the back end.. until the bottom fell out. Yes, friends, as we have learned..

Every day the bucket goes to well,
one day the bottom will fall out.

and I say...
2009-07-08 19:15:20
and I thought only woman teased...
To the extent I had a point regarding Alcoa they were these:

1) Their earnings don't matter b/c the company isn't well run.
2) You want a prediction from me on a company I think is utterly inept in both it's operations and communications with the Street? Seriously, lunge toward a pigeon and see which way it flies. Bet on that. AA simply doesn't matter and I won't pretend it does.
2009-07-08 19:22:57
Sic Transit Gloria
Loosely, it means "all glory is fleeting". Modernized it means "don't get cocky or you'll get smoked".

The fact that there was a malapropism in the article itself translates into "bad editing". Not to point fingers or anything, but I blame the editorial staff.

2009-07-09 03:19:56
and I thought only woman teased...
You see, plenty of cynisism and snark in but a few words. I especially like to see the earnings of poorly run companies in trying times to see what sort of accounting manipulation they employ in order to hit thier mark or better their prediction. After all a company like Alcoa is no doubt too big to fail and I'd like to know what I, as a taxpayer, will be buying.
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