Global Decoupling Underway

By Minyanville Staff Mar 06, 2008 12:15 pm
Outsourcing Indians, relocating Americans evidence of transition.
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Editor's Note: This contribution was made by Minyan Bob Adams and is being published for the benefit of the Minyanville community.


I read Minyanville Professor Ryan Krueger's recent article, Honey, I Decoupled Myself and enjoyed every word of it. I truly appreciated his closing comments:

"'We see costs rising in India and people becoming less available,' Gabriel Rozman of TCS said. 'That’s why we’re going to places like Latin America, which has professionals and reasonable costs.'"

In an earlier piece, Sweet and Sour Decoupling Clues, Professor Krueger added this, "In terms of consumption growth my firm believes decoupling is quite clear and historically profound."

As an American resident in Panama, I know exactly what he's talking about. It's not just Indian firms turning to Latin America to outsource. When I talk to Americans about expatriates coming to live in Panama, they all assume that Americans are the primary driving force. In truth, my firm's research has found that other Latin Americans greatly outnumber Americans moving here. In recent months, as just one example, Panama has been flooded with Venezuelans looking for opportunities to invest their money and keep it out of the clutches of Hugo Chavez. A decade ago, even five years ago, most would have headed to Miami. Today, they're coming to Panama, literally in the thousands. They rub shoulders at airport immigration with the Colombians, Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians and others headed this way too.

The current debate over whether or not emerging market economies are "coupled' or "uncoupled" to the US misses the point. It suggests that this is an "either/or" situation. Nonsense. This is a transition from one to the other. The economies of emerging markets haven't decoupled from the US economy, they're decoupling. It's a waste of our time to argue whether the transition is over (is a transition ever really over?), but it's worth our time to accept that it's underway. Ryan provides plenty of facts, figures, and sound reasoning in those two articles, plus a third, Kaizen vs. Complacency, but I suspect there are a good many folks out there who still have trouble believing in decoupling and my correspondence with Professor Krueger confirms that.

When I wrote an article for Barron's last September describing my firm's surveys (implemented by Zogby) of 115,000+ Americans over a two year period, I found that more than one out of every five American households were considering relocation outside the US (roughly 10%) or purchasing a property as an investment or second home outside the US (roughly 11%). I expected surprise. I got more than that. I found most people just couldn't come to grips with the idea that millions of Americans were ready to take an action that few would have considered even ten years ago. It was just so un-American.

When Erin Burnett interviewed me on this topic for Street Signs, you could hear the surprise in her voice too. I wish you could have seen her face. Here I was, 62 years old, talking to someone exactly half my age and I was the one who was excited and positive about this new trend while she was concerned, even a little shocked, with the amount of money that must be leaving the US. Talking to someone who reports every day on the movement of money and jobs from the US to emerging markets and experiencing her surprise that "average" Americans might be doing the same thing made me both smile and wince.

Indians outsourcing, Americans relocating and Venezuelans looking for a safe haven; you might think that Ryan Krueger and I are talking about different things. We are in detail, but we aren't in general. We each have different pieces of a much bigger puzzle. That puzzle is the global transition underway right now. No one has all the pieces, not by a long shot, but they're out there and we know that. If you're going to wait for people like us to put all the pieces together, fine. We don't mind. But if you want to profit from it, come on over to the puzzle table. There's still room.


Bob Adams is President and CEO of New Global Initiatives, Inc. in Bethesda, Maryland and President and CEO of Panama Wave S.A. in Panama City, Panama where he currently lives. He also operates a non-commercial website at RetirementWave.com that focuses on Panama and now has more young members and investor members than retirees!
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2008-03-06 12:26:26
right on baby!
yea, that's it, nail hit on head

take the money and RUN

vote w/ your FEET!
2008-03-06 12:52:42
Get out or buy tools?
You COULD take the money and run, or you could buy tools, land, supplies and hire neighbors and rebuild a local economy based on basic needs and minimum working hours for everyone with minimal consumption and local resources.
What a concept, eh?
Got milk?
Gonna have it tomorrow?
2008-03-06 13:22:13
An American Abroad...
Allow me to quote you back:
<<.....115,000+ Americans over a two year period, I found that more than one out of every five American households were considering relocation outside the US (roughly 10%) or purchasing a property as an investment or second home outside the US (roughly 11%)....>>

I would like to know the exact questions Zogby asked of the 115,000 Americans, and how it was phrased.

It is easy to theoretically "consider" one or the other, much less likely for it to actually happen. Has Zogby's followed up to see how many of the 115 000 actually HAVE moved by now, or OWN property outside the U.S. ?

This skepticism coming from someone who has followed the siren call of Go East (part of the year), is diversified globally and owns property outside the US. But I highly doubt the extrapolation of one in five families beating it to the Southern (or any other) border and forgoing Monday night football and apple pie....at least until you give me ACTUAL numbers!

Signed,
One foot Under The Puzzle Table :-)
2008-03-06 14:01:43
Confused?
I agree with Annette that the real numbers are likely far different than what the writer is suggesting. Regardless, what I don't understand is why would it be a good thing for Americans and their money to be exiting the country in ever larger numbers? That makes no sense if one's primary allegiance is to the US. And as Dan points out, people might instead choose to make an investment in this country. It does not serve the interests of Americans, expatriot or not, to applaud the continued hollowing out of our economic base.
2008-03-06 14:52:06
Thanks for the perspective from Panama. I appreciate your comments and noticed no value judgements(applause?) for the behaviors described. The concept of partial and ongoing decoupling is valid and useful.
2008-03-06 17:02:13
20% considering leaving...hmmm..you sure
If I take that at face value and do some projecting, if 20% of Americans are considering either moving or investing outside the US, I sh ould know at least SOME of these. I live in pretty affluent circles and don't know anyone considering this. I called several of my closest friends and none of them are planning it and I only heard of one (from a friend) who might be. So, how is that? When I was a kid, every one I knew--everyone--knew someone or at least OF someone who was killed in Vietnam...that is 58000 out of....oh...250 million at the time...so by your math, 60 MILLION americans (20% of 300 mil) are considering it. Don't you think everyone--EVERYONE--would know of at least SEVERAL people doing this? Just a thought. I always am wary of "polls" and "surveys" that defy simple logic or calculation.
2008-03-06 18:54:54
Maybe I don't understand. There is no 'money drain' with these people leaving, at least not as you might imagine. The US is the only country that requires ex-pat citizens to still pay income tax to their country of citizenship. So the loss is not total.
2008-03-06 19:07:16
If I am not mistaken I’ve read his story about 6 month ago. Story’s main line - how easy the process of establishing new life in Panama was and how good his life is now. He briefly mentioned facts that his wife was native of Panama-city. Then he mentioned selling his house in Bethesda (can’t remember if price was mentioned but living close to Bethesda I can safely guess 1.5 to 2 mils). The third and the most important point is that now his making business on those who are moving out of US. So anything he says I’d take as promotion of his own business (like Coke commercial). It may be his vision, but if his wife was native of Zimbabwe I doubt that his vision would be the same.
On the other hand I think that Jim Rogers departure is more serious event.
2008-03-06 20:02:35
not so fast
The emerging world is not going to decouple from $100 oil and the economic consequences that it entails. Per Capita in these emerging countries is very thin and cannot be expected to pay more for the coming wave of AG increase in basic port/chicken prices not to mention the cost or other food staples.
Growth is going to come to a standstill due to oil cost and its effect on wide ranging imports and exports. Basically a housing and land bubble in Central America will not have any impact on the lives of most people in the emerging markets.
Now for the idea that American's are just going to go off and live so wonderful life in Mexico or Central American countries does not take into account a big problem called Medical Care. American Insurance is no good in Mexico or Latin America so all services are cash on the barrel head, so to speak. Think retired older American's who have a habit of needing a variety of intense medical care. Most will have to be shipped back home in various states of ill health.
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