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Jason Haver: Bulls and Bears Battle in US Equities, While Indicators Conflict With Elliott Wave Counts
Indicators have turned bullish, which conflicts with the bearish intermediate wave count.
Jason Haver    

Long-time readers know I'm not a "perma" anything when it comes to equities. Outside of how it impacts my account (and yours), I really don't care whether the market goes up or down. I let the charts dictate the probabilities, then trade in the direction that seems like it's going to pay the most.

We have an interesting situation now, because a lot of traders will have systems that have switched to buy signals on the recent rally. That means the majority will be expecting upside follow-through, and many will be expecting new all-time highs (in fact, I've heard numerous perma-bulls gloating already, as if new highs are simply a given). Some of my indicators are on buy signals as well, and I have to respect that -- but I also have to respect the wave counts. These are the most difficult moments for me as an analyst, because I have conflicting signals between my preferred wave count, which is bearish, and my indicators, which are bullish.

So I've combed the charts extensively for clues, and in this update, I'll present a few things which may help as signals.

While the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) has rallied basically straight up, a number of indices are lagging by a significant margin, and we're going to look at two of those today. First up is the Russell 2000 (INDEXRUSSELL:RUT), which has a bit different wave structure than SPX, as shown below:


Click to enlarge

Next is the Dow Jones Transportation Average (INDEXDJX:.DJI). TRAN's rally so far appears quite anemic in comparison to SPX (shown in the lower panel). Note that TRAN has run into resistance. Also note that the first upside target (this is not a target that was discussed previously here, it was one I calculated near yesterday's open) for SPX (1823) has been reached. Not shown on this chart is the fact that hourly RSI (for SPX) confirmed the 1823 high with no divergences.

From a near-term perspective, if SPX makes a low below 1818.38 before it breaks above 1821.32, then it would suggest we've formed at least a small impulsive decline against the 1823 high -- which would favor that at least one more leg down (of similar length or longer) will follow the next small bounce.


Click to enlarge

Finally, the SPDR S&P 500 (NYSEARCA:SPY) chart. As I mentioned a moment ago, many of my own indicators are now bullish -- so in order to understand why I'm still favoring the bearish wave counts over the bullish indicators, we need to revisit something I discussed on Monday:

There is only one thing bothering me for bears here, and that's the fact that my preferred count has us presently retracing an extended fifth. Extended fifths frequently form impressive "double" retrace patterns -- if that happens here, the current rally will retest the all-time high before dropping to new lows.

From an intermediate perspective, we are currently retesting the all-time high.



Click to enlarge

In conclusion, this is one of those times when you almost hate to make a call, because you know that if you're wrong, you're going to berate yourself for ignoring your own indicators. Yet I have to honor my own system, and feel I owe it to readers not to be wishy-washy here (and I'm fully prepared to eat crow if necessary!).

The toughest part of trading and analysis is when the probabilities don't line up with the actualities -- and although this happens in everything in life (as you know if you've ever uttered the words, "What are the odds?"), when it happens in trading, it costs us money. Ultimately, we simply have to see that as "operating cost." No venture in life is without risk -- and even something as simple as driving five minutes to the local drug store can turn into a life-altering event. I use this example because I almost had a head-on collision on the highway last night, when I rounded a blind turn and came face to face with a car in my lane that was trying to pass in a no-passing zone. I ended up coming to a full and complete stop in the middle of the highway (from 50+ mph!) in order to avoid hitting him.

Trading is sometimes no different. This is one reason why risk management is an integral part of any system (yet one that's often over looked by newer traders) -- when the probabilities don't go as planned, make sure you're at least wearing your seat belt. Trade safe.

Follow me on Twitter while I try to figure out exactly how to make practical use of Twitter: @PretzelLogic.

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No positions in stocks mentioned.
The information on this website solely reflects the analysis of or opinion about the performance of securities and financial markets by the writers whose articles appear on the site. The views expressed by the writers are not necessarily the views of Minyanville Media, Inc. or members of its management. Nothing contained on the website is intended to constitute a recommendation or advice addressed to an individual investor or category of investors to purchase, sell or hold any security, or to take any action with respect to the prospective movement of the securities markets or to solicit the purchase or sale of any security. Any investment decisions must be made by the reader either individually or in consultation with his or her investment professional. Minyanville writers and staff may trade or hold positions in securities that are discussed in articles appearing on the website. Writers of articles are required to disclose whether they have a position in any stock or fund discussed in an article, but are not permitted to disclose the size or direction of the position. Nothing on this website is intended to solicit business of any kind for a writer's business or fund. Minyanville management and staff as well as contributing writers will not respond to emails or other communications requesting investment advice.

Copyright 2011 Minyanville Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Jason Haver: Bulls and Bears Battle in US Equities, While Indicators Conflict With Elliott Wave Counts
Indicators have turned bullish, which conflicts with the bearish intermediate wave count.
Jason Haver    

Long-time readers know I'm not a "perma" anything when it comes to equities. Outside of how it impacts my account (and yours), I really don't care whether the market goes up or down. I let the charts dictate the probabilities, then trade in the direction that seems like it's going to pay the most.

We have an interesting situation now, because a lot of traders will have systems that have switched to buy signals on the recent rally. That means the majority will be expecting upside follow-through, and many will be expecting new all-time highs (in fact, I've heard numerous perma-bulls gloating already, as if new highs are simply a given). Some of my indicators are on buy signals as well, and I have to respect that -- but I also have to respect the wave counts. These are the most difficult moments for me as an analyst, because I have conflicting signals between my preferred wave count, which is bearish, and my indicators, which are bullish.

So I've combed the charts extensively for clues, and in this update, I'll present a few things which may help as signals.

While the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) has rallied basically straight up, a number of indices are lagging by a significant margin, and we're going to look at two of those today. First up is the Russell 2000 (INDEXRUSSELL:RUT), which has a bit different wave structure than SPX, as shown below:


Click to enlarge

Next is the Dow Jones Transportation Average (INDEXDJX:.DJI). TRAN's rally so far appears quite anemic in comparison to SPX (shown in the lower panel). Note that TRAN has run into resistance. Also note that the first upside target (this is not a target that was discussed previously here, it was one I calculated near yesterday's open) for SPX (1823) has been reached. Not shown on this chart is the fact that hourly RSI (for SPX) confirmed the 1823 high with no divergences.

From a near-term perspective, if SPX makes a low below 1818.38 before it breaks above 1821.32, then it would suggest we've formed at least a small impulsive decline against the 1823 high -- which would favor that at least one more leg down (of similar length or longer) will follow the next small bounce.


Click to enlarge

Finally, the SPDR S&P 500 (NYSEARCA:SPY) chart. As I mentioned a moment ago, many of my own indicators are now bullish -- so in order to understand why I'm still favoring the bearish wave counts over the bullish indicators, we need to revisit something I discussed on Monday:

There is only one thing bothering me for bears here, and that's the fact that my preferred count has us presently retracing an extended fifth. Extended fifths frequently form impressive "double" retrace patterns -- if that happens here, the current rally will retest the all-time high before dropping to new lows.

From an intermediate perspective, we are currently retesting the all-time high.



Click to enlarge

In conclusion, this is one of those times when you almost hate to make a call, because you know that if you're wrong, you're going to berate yourself for ignoring your own indicators. Yet I have to honor my own system, and feel I owe it to readers not to be wishy-washy here (and I'm fully prepared to eat crow if necessary!).

The toughest part of trading and analysis is when the probabilities don't line up with the actualities -- and although this happens in everything in life (as you know if you've ever uttered the words, "What are the odds?"), when it happens in trading, it costs us money. Ultimately, we simply have to see that as "operating cost." No venture in life is without risk -- and even something as simple as driving five minutes to the local drug store can turn into a life-altering event. I use this example because I almost had a head-on collision on the highway last night, when I rounded a blind turn and came face to face with a car in my lane that was trying to pass in a no-passing zone. I ended up coming to a full and complete stop in the middle of the highway (from 50+ mph!) in order to avoid hitting him.

Trading is sometimes no different. This is one reason why risk management is an integral part of any system (yet one that's often over looked by newer traders) -- when the probabilities don't go as planned, make sure you're at least wearing your seat belt. Trade safe.

Follow me on Twitter while I try to figure out exactly how to make practical use of Twitter: @PretzelLogic.

Follow the markets all day every day with a FREE 14 day trial to Buzz & Banter. Over 30 professional traders share their ideas in real-time. Learn more.
No positions in stocks mentioned.
The information on this website solely reflects the analysis of or opinion about the performance of securities and financial markets by the writers whose articles appear on the site. The views expressed by the writers are not necessarily the views of Minyanville Media, Inc. or members of its management. Nothing contained on the website is intended to constitute a recommendation or advice addressed to an individual investor or category of investors to purchase, sell or hold any security, or to take any action with respect to the prospective movement of the securities markets or to solicit the purchase or sale of any security. Any investment decisions must be made by the reader either individually or in consultation with his or her investment professional. Minyanville writers and staff may trade or hold positions in securities that are discussed in articles appearing on the website. Writers of articles are required to disclose whether they have a position in any stock or fund discussed in an article, but are not permitted to disclose the size or direction of the position. Nothing on this website is intended to solicit business of any kind for a writer's business or fund. Minyanville management and staff as well as contributing writers will not respond to emails or other communications requesting investment advice.

Copyright 2011 Minyanville Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Jason Haver: Bulls and Bears Battle in US Equities, While Indicators Conflict With Elliott Wave Counts
Indicators have turned bullish, which conflicts with the bearish intermediate wave count.
Jason Haver    

Long-time readers know I'm not a "perma" anything when it comes to equities. Outside of how it impacts my account (and yours), I really don't care whether the market goes up or down. I let the charts dictate the probabilities, then trade in the direction that seems like it's going to pay the most.

We have an interesting situation now, because a lot of traders will have systems that have switched to buy signals on the recent rally. That means the majority will be expecting upside follow-through, and many will be expecting new all-time highs (in fact, I've heard numerous perma-bulls gloating already, as if new highs are simply a given). Some of my indicators are on buy signals as well, and I have to respect that -- but I also have to respect the wave counts. These are the most difficult moments for me as an analyst, because I have conflicting signals between my preferred wave count, which is bearish, and my indicators, which are bullish.

So I've combed the charts extensively for clues, and in this update, I'll present a few things which may help as signals.

While the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) has rallied basically straight up, a number of indices are lagging by a significant margin, and we're going to look at two of those today. First up is the Russell 2000 (INDEXRUSSELL:RUT), which has a bit different wave structure than SPX, as shown below:


Click to enlarge

Next is the Dow Jones Transportation Average (INDEXDJX:.DJI). TRAN's rally so far appears quite anemic in comparison to SPX (shown in the lower panel). Note that TRAN has run into resistance. Also note that the first upside target (this is not a target that was discussed previously here, it was one I calculated near yesterday's open) for SPX (1823) has been reached. Not shown on this chart is the fact that hourly RSI (for SPX) confirmed the 1823 high with no divergences.

From a near-term perspective, if SPX makes a low below 1818.38 before it breaks above 1821.32, then it would suggest we've formed at least a small impulsive decline against the 1823 high -- which would favor that at least one more leg down (of similar length or longer) will follow the next small bounce.


Click to enlarge

Finally, the SPDR S&P 500 (NYSEARCA:SPY) chart. As I mentioned a moment ago, many of my own indicators are now bullish -- so in order to understand why I'm still favoring the bearish wave counts over the bullish indicators, we need to revisit something I discussed on Monday:

There is only one thing bothering me for bears here, and that's the fact that my preferred count has us presently retracing an extended fifth. Extended fifths frequently form impressive "double" retrace patterns -- if that happens here, the current rally will retest the all-time high before dropping to new lows.

From an intermediate perspective, we are currently retesting the all-time high.



Click to enlarge

In conclusion, this is one of those times when you almost hate to make a call, because you know that if you're wrong, you're going to berate yourself for ignoring your own indicators. Yet I have to honor my own system, and feel I owe it to readers not to be wishy-washy here (and I'm fully prepared to eat crow if necessary!).

The toughest part of trading and analysis is when the probabilities don't line up with the actualities -- and although this happens in everything in life (as you know if you've ever uttered the words, "What are the odds?"), when it happens in trading, it costs us money. Ultimately, we simply have to see that as "operating cost." No venture in life is without risk -- and even something as simple as driving five minutes to the local drug store can turn into a life-altering event. I use this example because I almost had a head-on collision on the highway last night, when I rounded a blind turn and came face to face with a car in my lane that was trying to pass in a no-passing zone. I ended up coming to a full and complete stop in the middle of the highway (from 50+ mph!) in order to avoid hitting him.

Trading is sometimes no different. This is one reason why risk management is an integral part of any system (yet one that's often over looked by newer traders) -- when the probabilities don't go as planned, make sure you're at least wearing your seat belt. Trade safe.

Follow me on Twitter while I try to figure out exactly how to make practical use of Twitter: @PretzelLogic.

Follow the markets all day every day with a FREE 14 day trial to Buzz & Banter. Over 30 professional traders share their ideas in real-time. Learn more.
No positions in stocks mentioned.
The information on this website solely reflects the analysis of or opinion about the performance of securities and financial markets by the writers whose articles appear on the site. The views expressed by the writers are not necessarily the views of Minyanville Media, Inc. or members of its management. Nothing contained on the website is intended to constitute a recommendation or advice addressed to an individual investor or category of investors to purchase, sell or hold any security, or to take any action with respect to the prospective movement of the securities markets or to solicit the purchase or sale of any security. Any investment decisions must be made by the reader either individually or in consultation with his or her investment professional. Minyanville writers and staff may trade or hold positions in securities that are discussed in articles appearing on the website. Writers of articles are required to disclose whether they have a position in any stock or fund discussed in an article, but are not permitted to disclose the size or direction of the position. Nothing on this website is intended to solicit business of any kind for a writer's business or fund. Minyanville management and staff as well as contributing writers will not respond to emails or other communications requesting investment advice.

Copyright 2011 Minyanville Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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