Five Things You Need to Know: Win the Battle, Lose the War

Kevin Depew  Oct 14, 2008 2:30 pm

Five Things You Need to Know: Win the Battle, Lose the War
 
Just like gamblers, some traders and investors are addicted to losing.
 

 

Kevin Depew's Five Things You Need to Know to stay ahead of the pack on Wall Street:

Win the Battle, Lose the War... The Phenomenon of Stu Ungar... Addicted to Losing... The Numbness of Winning... Gods of Wealth

Win the Battle, Lose the War

This is the very essence of gambling; many battles won, tickets cashed, pots raked in, pockets stuffed full of bills, all the while running in place as you slip inexorably toward destitution. I would like to tell you that it’s different, perhaps even as much as you might like to hear that it’s different, that the war can be won, that not all gamblers die broke, that the battles fought between the first post and the last pot matter in the end. But it is what it is. The truth is harsh.

Stu Ungar met the truth in a Las Vegas motel room in 1998, so far near the end of the Vegas strip he was practically off it. He was found dead in his bed, alone, with about $800 cash. But this was no ordinary steady bad-lucker. This was Stu Ungar, or Stuey the Kid, who had won back-to-back World Series of Poker titles by the time he was 27. It is estimated that Ungar won and lost about $30 million before meeting his end in that hotel room at the age of 45.

The Phenomenon of Stu Ungar

The Sunday New York Times in June 2005 ran a feature on the phenomenon of Stu Ungar. It made the front page of the Sunday Styles section. The newspaper at the same time began began a new “educational” feature on poker playing, similar to the Chess features, or Bridge features, that have run in newspapers around the country for years. Remember, this was 2005. Risk appetites were hot. I suppose it was about time poker entered the mainstream.



The reason the Stu Ungar story caught my eye then, and the reason I was reminded of it this morning, is because the article was able to draw a thin line between risk and ruin and even shade the line between the two with a bit of gambler’s wisdom. The thin line between risk and ruin is really just the faded, yellowed distinction between those who have already lost and those who still want to. According to the Times, “To his contemporaries, Ungar remains the ultimate gambler’s cautionary tale, the embodiment of hazardous risk. But to a wonky new generation of players, decked out in Oakley snowboarder sunglasses and iPods, schooled on Internet poker and striving for corporate sponsorship, Ungar is a renegade genius...”

A symbol of wasted talent - and reckless disregard - to some, Ungar is also a symbol of romantic rebellion - and reckless disregard - to others. Which category you fall into - wasted talent or romantic rebel - probably also describes your relationship with risk in general.

Addicted to Losing

I’m no stranger to a romanticized view of gambling and a tilted relationship with risk. When I was a kid my first job was on a golf course. I took lessons from the local golf pro - not in golf, but in making odds lines, taking bets on everything from Churchill Downs to the Cincinnati Reds to the British Open, and occasionally running them to the local liquor store to hand over to the bookie. 

Later, my first "real" job out of college was working for the Daily Racing Form. Over the years I’ve met, literally, hundreds and hundreds of “professional” gamblers. But I can count on one hand the ones who were verifiable winners. Most were addicted to losing. After all, that’s the one addiction gambling feeds day in, day out - losing.

1 of 1 (100%) found this helpful
Rate this article:  (1 Vote)
Comments (32) See All Comments »
10-15-2008, 3:31 pm
Hi, Dean. You comment reminded me of something that's been sticking in my craw - thanks for prying it loose.

"..the worst that can happen is that the boss will be forced to retire with a massive 'golden parachute'
Read More
10-15-2008, 3:34 pm
minor correction - the Electoral College gives more power to a vote in a small-pop state than it does to that same vote in a large-pop state. Mathematically.
Read More
10-15-2008, 8:50 pm
Maybe in fact they are being "rational" - in the sense of "underperformance anxiety", "keeping up with the Joneses", conforming, being greedy, being fearful, doing unto others before being done to ...


Read More
10-17-2008, 10:32 pm
The force is strong in this one.
My brother, the race was won long ago, yet you keep one-upping yourself.

Something stuck sideways in my noggin'; not sure i know where the new rules to the game have moved to? What we conside
Read More
10-18-2008, 12:13 pm
This is from a psychology 101 book in the behaviorist section.In an experiment, pigeons rewarded with birdseed each time they poke a lever, give up quickly when you stop rewarding them. If you reward them for only the 10th peck of the lever, then st
Read More
discuss this article and more on the mv exchange
No positions in stocks mentioned.

Get real-time options trading ideas from Steve Smith, veteran options trader and newsletter author, plus let him show you the way to cut risk and boost your returns through the strategic use of options.  Click here for a free 14 day trial to OptionSmith by Steve Smith.



The information on this website solely reflects the analysis of or opinion about the performance of securities and financial markets by the writers whose articles appear on the site. The views expressed by the writers are not necessarily the views of Minyanville Media, Inc. or members of its management. Nothing contained on the website is intended to constitute a recommendation or advice addressed to an individual investor or category of investors to purchase, sell or hold any security, or to take any action with respect to the prospective movement of the securities markets or to solicit the purchase or sale of any security. Any investment decisions must be made by the reader either individually or in consultation with his or her investment professional. Minyanville writers and staff may trade or hold positions in securities that are discussed in articles appearing on the website. Writers of articles are required to disclose whether they have a position in any stock or fund discussed in an article, but are not permitted to disclose the size or direction of the position. Nothing on this website is intended to solicit business of any kind for a writer's business or fund. Minyanville management and staff as well as contributing writers will not respond to emails or other communications requesting investment advice.

Copyright 2009 Minyanville Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Ticker Talk
Popular Tickers:
SPX »RIMM »AMZN »
Select
  •  
Talk Now
Share this Talk on your site:
Send us your feedback

Our Professors

rss article alert