This Isn't Déjà Vu of 1930

Smita Sadana  Sep 28, 2009 10:00 am

This Isn't Déjà Vu of 1930
 
Instead, compare the time it takes to reach new highs.
 

Editor's Note: The following is an excerpt from the Bull Market Timer Weekend Update (click to subscribe). It's being shared here for the benefit of the Minyanville community.


There’s been talk lately about how the recent rally has been reminiscent of the rally after the 1929 crash. We’ve weighed in on this issue in our earlier updates, but let’s look at it through a different looking glass.

1. The 1930 rally was the first significant rally of the bear market, and the current rally is fifth ascent after the decline began.


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2. In 1930, the index hadn’t taken out its 200-day moving average. As a matter of fact -- as we saw in the Bull Market Timer video -- using that metric, market participants would have been saved from the agony of chasing bear market rallies that subsequently gave way to new lows. The Golden Cross (a 50-day moving average crossing above the 200-day moving average) also didn’t occur in the 1930 rally, but both of those have occurred in this rally.


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Here’s the present picture:


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So, in my humble opinion, this doesn’t seem like 1930 based on history.

However, since the media’s favorite parallel has been the 1929-30 timeframe, how about an often overlooked metric for comparison -- the time it can take to reach new highs?

It took the markets 25 years to reach a new high after the market decline that started in 1929. The market didn’t make new highs until 1954. Similarly, after 1966, no meaningful highs were achieved for another 16 years. I’ve previously talked about the weakening bias toward “buy and hold” as a whole generation of investors becomes more wary of the markets.

Many market participants who have lost substantial wealth (the S&P 500 still remains about 33% below the 2007 highs) might not trust the market again after enduring two of the most severe bear markets in the recent stock market history -- both within a decade.

Baby boomers and other disappointed investors are likely to park some of their assets in “safe” areas because the focus has subtly shifted from making money to holding on to their money.

It doesn’t mean that markets will be closed for action, but it does mean that the markets might be choppy and real healing might take some time. To be successful, the market participants will have to adjust to this new reality over time.

Intermediate and Short-Term Trend:

As we mentioned last week, our short-term indicators were starting to cycle into overbought territory again, signaling increasing risk of a correction. We had a 3% correction this week, which has turned the short-term trend of the market down. The intermediate-term trend of the market remains up.

The intermediate trend of the market remains an important mechanism to tune exposure to the market and manage risk -- in conjunction with other shorter-term indicators -- as we have repeatedly discussed over the months. As we have been observing for months, the intermediate trend continues to point higher.

Let’s revisit some support levels on the S&P 500 as this correction plays out: As shown below, the market is already close to minor support in the 1035 vicinity.


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The next significant level will be the 1015 level which is also at the 50-day simple moving average.


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More significant S&P 500 support levels come into play between 950 and 970, followed by 850 to 870, which is the line in the sand for the current market advance.

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09-28-2009, 12:31 pm
Smita,
I would guess the comparison to 1929-1930 comes more from the timing of a debt bubble unwind (and shift in consumer attitudes). We may have the largest unwinding of the largest debt bubble in history (1.4X greater than before the G.D.).
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09-28-2009, 12:36 pm
Correction: I think it's closer to 1.7X. The critical part being consumer debt/GDP ratio
This sure would make for an interesting computer simulation, and I'm sure one of the big boys economists is running it. The magnitude of the d
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09-28-2009, 12:51 pm
If we where here before it would not be "Déjà Vu", but sense we definitely have not been here (per your article) but it feels like we have, then it is "Déjà Vu".... :)
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09-28-2009, 6:51 pm
the banks were over leveraged, even a teenager trading on a demo account can tell you that using 100 to 1 leverage is a bad bad idea, so how did Lehman Bros. and plenty of others with PhD maths guys building risk models get themselves into a situatio
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09-29-2009, 12:21 am
The thesis that the market is heading for a significant correction, I think it is still valid. When and How significant is open for debate. The world leaders have put trillions of dollars of support for the market, nobody or nothing at the moment can
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