Minyan Mailbag: The Ruins of June

Jason Goepfert  Jun 30, 2008 4:22 pm

Minyan Mailbag: The Ruins of June
 
What usually follows months like this?
 

 

Prof. Goepfert,

What has happened historically after months this lousy, particularly during secular bears?

Thank you,


Prof. Sedacca

Prof. Sedacca,

One of the pieces of data that's been drifting around the past couple of days notes that this is shaping up to be the worst June in the DJIA since the Great Depression.

That's sobering stuff, so let's take a look at the S&P 500 and see how this month is shaping up (subject to change, of course, as the month is obviously not over just yet).



This would be the worst June swoon in the history of the index, beating June 1962 by about 1%. There was a particularly nasty 25% spill in the four months leading up to June '62, a touch worse than what we've seen so far this time around.

Overall, this month would rank 10th on the all-time dunce list, and the worst month since September 2002. Going forward there wasn't a lot consistent about the other months. There was a generally positive bias, but that's the case for any random month, and especially so after a down month.

Five of these "worst months" occurred during the last bear market from 2000 - 2002, and surprisingly enough the next month was positive four of the five times, and we were positive three months later three of the five.

During the mostly-pathetic 1970's, six of the months qualified for this list, and again the performance going forward was mixed to even slightly positive when looking out longer than one month. There were some huge sell-offs following these already-disastrous months, but also some major rebounds.

I'm not sure that this has a ton of use other than the headline shock factor ("10th Worst Month of All Time!"), but generally there has been a positive bias following horrendous performances like this.

-Jason

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06-30-2008, 5:31 pm
Standard and Poor's was formed in a merger in 1941 - thus, I presume the SP500 index time series isn't old enough to include the Depression. Prof. Goepfert rightly prefers the 500 to the Dow 30, as do most investors and analysts. Practi
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06-30-2008, 8:30 pm
Yes. I agree. The problem with statistical comparisons, as the professor said near the end "I'm not sure this has a ton of use".

What are the fundamental issues of the free market? What resources were available for thos
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06-30-2008, 9:21 pm
"Standard and Poor's was formed in a merger in 1941 - thus, I presume the SP500 index time series isn't old enough to include the Depression. Prof. Goepfert rightly prefers the 500 to the Dow 30, as do most investors and analysts. P
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07-01-2008, 12:25 pm
One thing about stats is that when you have overlapping numbers like July-74 with xxxx and then you look at aug-74 xxxx and sep-74 xxxx
they should be sequentially the same.

Check your stats next time or else you lose all credibili
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07-01-2008, 7:15 pm
Where where we in June 30th, 1931. That was the last time we had declining home values for this long a period, and the year after consumer credit as percentage of GDP peaked. I'm guessing that is also going to be a match.
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