Welcome to the Depression

Bennet Sedacca  Jan 26, 2009 11:45 am

Welcome to the Depression
 
Avalanche of layoffs shows this is no recession.
 

 
Recession:
A recession occurs when a nation’s living standards drop and prices increase. This downturn in economic activity is widely defined as a decline in a country’s gross domestic product for at least 2 quarters.

Depression:
An economic condition caused by a massive decrease in business activity, falling prices, reduced purchasing power, excess of supply over demand, rising unemployment, and other negative economic factors.

- Bloomberg financial definitions

Truth or Dare: Recession or Depression?

As unpopular as it may have been, I have been writing about the impending recession over the past several years. I am rather used to being called a "perma-bear" as it relates to the asset-based, over-leveraged mess we call our economy.

Truthfully, it's been no fun whatsoever to call 'em as I see 'em. An outlier view has been a necessary evil, however, and one that I've been proud to have had the guts to provide.

I will now turn to what, in my view, is the biggest risk of all: We're in a recession - and the economy can actually shrink. And shrink it has, is, and will likely continue to do. The question now: Are we going through a traditional recession, or a once-in-a-lifetime depression?

I actually hoped the unprecedented credit unwind would end up in a nasty recession; but I fear a depression is either upon us or will soon be upon us. To be truthful is essential in markets and life: To face head-on the bad news which isn't at all fun or exciting to face.

I hate to say this, as unpopular as it may be: Welcome to the depression. For my reasoning, please read on.

Putting the Recession Question to Bed

GDP estimates for 2008's fourth quarter are due to be released on Friday morning at 8:30 a.m., with estimates coming in the -5.5% range, which follows a -0.5% number in the prior quarter. Many believe the economy will turn around in the second half of the year, when the Obama administration’s fiscal stimulus plan makes things all better.

I couldn't disagree more. We have seen these stimulus plans before: Dropping $500 checks into the mail has produced more savings and debt repayment - but not a flow of steady consumption by consumers. Seriously, with new claims for unemployment benefits now averaging over 500,000 per week, the economy losing 600,000 jobs per month, and leverage still piled up on top of leverage, I think the odds of the economy being in growth by the end of 2009 (and possibly the end of 2010) is nothing more than a pipe-dream.

GDP Quarterly Change Since 1994
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01-28-2009, 12:43 pm

Bennet,

If you are right and interest rates rise to the 20% range (or higher) what does that do for our ability to maintain (let alone pay down) our debt as a country and as individuals? What does it mean for bankruptcies and for
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01-29-2009, 9:11 pm
stop it
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02-04-2009, 8:19 pm
I have suspected we were heading for a Depression (not recession) since 2004. I am a long time MV reader and you are one of 3 must reads.

Yes, it sucks being a cynic and there was no joy in seeing what what going to unfold, but what rea
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02-04-2009, 10:00 pm
I have posted here a few times asking what will the depression look like on the street. Your neighborhood as well as mine. It is a reality for many right now, but right now that neighborhood can be avoided by the rest of us not affected yet. The d
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02-05-2009, 7:47 pm
James - just take a look at Hoofy and Boo's "What would John Thain Do?"' LOOK AT HOW CRAZY AND OUT OF TOUCH that A-Hole is!!! Hmm- I want a hot dog, let me fly to Frankfurt!

I live in a decent, settled neighborh
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